How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Extended-Phenotype » 19 Apr 2016 17:05

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Rather this sort of stuff stayed off the team boards, if I honest m8. But your call.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Maneki Neko » 19 Apr 2016 17:13

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Results are mainly driven by the quality of players that you possess out on the pitch. The players we have are fricking useless.

Coppell didn't win the league when Paul Brooker was on the wing and Lloyd Owusu was up front with Les Ferdinand. Was Coppell tactically inept? He needed time to get the players in who had the quality to get results consistently.

McDermott is not a bad manager because his players are useless.


I'm afraid the buck stops with the manager regardless of what you think of the players ..


that depends
if he was brought in to rebuild on the cheap and sort out the mess left by previous managers/owners it would be utterly mental to sack him before giving him the chance to do so.,

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by royalp-we » 19 Apr 2016 19:39

Give over. So after a busy summer and top wages being spent I'm sure the Thais will have said after Clarke leaving (when we were in the top half)

"It's ok, go and get someone on the cheap come in who can completely rebuild this team over the next 2/3 yrs".

They want success ASAP. As do many of us - as sports fans that is what you pay good money for.

They will give Brian till around December and will then decide what's happening. What will be, will be.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Longhorn1970 » 19 Apr 2016 20:01

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Top Flight I think there are many that would disagree with you that McDermott is tactically inept.

Results are mainly driven by the quality of players that you possess out on the pitch. The players we have are fricking useless.

Coppell didn't win the league when Paul Brooker was on the wing and Lloyd Owusu was up front with Les Ferdinand. Was Coppell tactically inept? He needed time to get the players in who had the quality to get results consistently.

McDermott is not a bad manager because his players are useless.


I'm afraid the buck stops with the manager regardless of what you think of the players ..


that depends
if he was brought in to rebuild on the cheap and sort out the mess left by previous managers/owners it would be utterly mental to sack him before giving him the chance to do so.,


I doubt a rebuild was discussed or required, the squad is as good as any at this level which we've already seen ..

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Longhorn1970 » 19 Apr 2016 20:03

royalp-we Give over. So after a busy summer and top wages being spent I'm sure the Thais will have said after Clarke leaving (when we were in the top half)

"It's ok, go and get someone on the cheap come in who can completely rebuild this team over the next 2/3 yrs".

They want success ASAP. As do many of us - as sports fans that is what you pay good money for.

They will give Brian till around December and will then decide what's happening. What will be, will be.


Sense at last !


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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Maneki Neko » 20 Apr 2016 00:11

royalp-we Give over. So after a busy summer and top wages being spent I'm sure the Thais will have said after Clarke leaving (when we were in the top half)

"It's ok, go and get someone on the cheap come in who can completely rebuild this team over the next 2/3 yrs".

They want success ASAP.

January window says youre wrong

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Maneki Neko » 20 Apr 2016 00:12

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I'm afraid the buck stops with the manager regardless of what you think of the players ..


that depends
if he was brought in to rebuild on the cheap and sort out the mess left by previous managers/owners it would be utterly mental to sack him before giving him the chance to do so.,


I doubt a rebuild was discussed or required, the squad is as good as any at this level which we've already seen ..


Hahhaaahahahahahahahaaha

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Avon Royal » 20 Apr 2016 06:45

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The issues we're faced with at the moment aren't down to lack of funding though, they're down to not getting the best out of the resources we've got and, probably, having far too many players in the squad who are here for the short term and don't really care about what happens here.

McDermott has built a reputation on building teams, spotting talent and supposedly getting the best from his players through exception man management. Next season, and the summer window, will give him a great chance to prove if that reputation is well founded or not.


McDermott has built a reputation for building a team, singular. Whether he can build another is yet to be seen.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by RoyalBlue » 20 Apr 2016 08:00

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Top Flight Things HAVE gone tits-up! This whole summer is things going tits-up.


The issues we're faced with at the moment aren't down to lack of funding though, they're down to not getting the best out of the resources we've got and, probably, having far too many players in the squad who are here for the short term and don't really care about what happens here.

McDermott has built a reputation on building teams, spotting talent and supposedly getting the best from his players through exception man management. Next season, and the summer window, will give him a great chance to prove if that reputation is well founded or not.


McDermott has built a reputation for building a team, singular. Whether he can build another is yet to be seen.


Exactly. And, at the moment, it's starting to look like a dangerous experiment!

When he arrived weren't we told sorting out our defence was first priority? If so, it's clear that he continues to fail in that respect. Not only that but he has got a forward line virtually incapable of scoring. Meantime the ostriches keep expecting favourable lightning to strike twice in the same place.


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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Top Flight » 20 Apr 2016 08:30

It is not an experiment based on McDermott's track record. He is PROVEN.

Recruiting Bergkamp would have been an experiment.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Top Flight » 20 Apr 2016 08:38

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The issues we're faced with at the moment aren't down to lack of funding though, they're down to not getting the best out of the resources we've got and, probably, having far too many players in the squad who are here for the short term and don't really care about what happens here.

McDermott has built a reputation on building teams, spotting talent and supposedly getting the best from his players through exception man management. Next season, and the summer window, will give him a great chance to prove if that reputation is well founded or not.


McDermott has built a reputation for building a team, singular. Whether he can build another is yet to be seen.


Exactly. And, at the moment, it's starting to look like a dangerous experiment!

When he arrived weren't we told sorting out our defence was first priority? If so, it's clear that he continues to fail in that respect. Not only that but he has got a forward line virtually incapable of scoring. Meantime the ostriches keep expecting favourable lightning to strike twice in the same place.


He had tightened up the defence when it mattered. You're now reading too much into a period when results haven't mattered anymore. Yes we've lost three on the bounce, but the results haven't mattered. Our Championship status is secure. We can't go up. These last few games are experimental friendlies. You need to see it for what it is. McDermott is experimenting with his side, trying out different formations. He is looking at how we play in a 4-3-3. Personally, I think we're sh*t in a 4-3-3. We don't have enough power to play that system very well. Next season, everything will be different. But it doesn't mean we'll be going up. It all depends who he is able to bring in anad how quickly the gel together. We need a few years now of team building. If Brian is given the chance he will make us champions again. He is an excellent tactician and man manager. What he needs is support from the club, the board, the fans and from the influential radio hosts Tim Dellor and Adie Williams.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Vision » 20 Apr 2016 09:05

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I'm afraid the buck stops with the manager regardless of what you think of the players ..


that depends
if he was brought in to rebuild on the cheap and sort out the mess left by previous managers/owners it would be utterly mental to sack him before giving him the chance to do so.,


I doubt a rebuild was discussed or required, the squad is as good as any at this level which we've already seen ..


It really isn't.

Exhibit A: Simon Cox. Deemed not good enough while we had Sa and Blackman so we shunted him off to a struggling Bristol City where he couldn't get a start and played less than an hour spread over his whole time there. Has now started the last 5 games for us.

That's where this "squad" is at.

If the possibility of a rebuild wasn't discussed or considered then it bloody well should have been. We've got 6 loan players. When McDermott took over the club knew Sa was looking for a move, Hurtado was a bust and Blackman wasn't going to sign a new contract. Add the out of contract players to that lot and it's pretty obvious a rebuild was going to be needed.

That's the chance the club took when it went with such a short term transfer window policy in the summer.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by No Fixed Abode » 20 Apr 2016 09:13

4 defeats on the trot
9 goals conceded

Ship continues to steady.

Has BM's PPG gone above Clarke's yet?


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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by royalp-we » 20 Apr 2016 09:17

Firstly, that was beautiful TF

I'm afraid that 2 to 3 years team building won't become a reality unless Brian has this team actually resembling a team in the first half of next year. He'll be gone if we are still struggling in December.

Every single summer is massive, for every single club.

This summer is no different and some big clubs look to be joining the league - the gap in performance will become bigger and not many will stand and watch us drop back down he league pyramid because we wanted to team build. The board cannot afford to be complacent and flirt with relegation, hence why they will assess the manager each December. As I said above - this is sports and you need performances to keep the punters happy. Thus far, you can't blame them; the improvement is not visibly there to see.

I personally feel Brian does not deserve some of the slander he has been receiving. But I do feel that the next 6 to 8 months will determine his future with RFC.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by genome » 20 Apr 2016 09:22

No Fixed Abode 4 defeats on the trot
9 goals conceded

Ship continues to steady.

Has BM's PPG gone above Clarke's yet?


Better to wobble now when there is nothing to play for than when you are 2nd in the league m8

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Delboy » 20 Apr 2016 09:28

Need a defensive coach as well as new players in the summer, teams get out of this division by not conceding!!!

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by No Fixed Abode » 20 Apr 2016 09:31

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9 goals conceded

Ship continues to steady.

Has BM's PPG gone above Clarke's yet?


Better to wobble now when there is nothing to play for than when you are 2nd in the league m8


Less than 13k there last night. I'm sure the Thai's are disappointed from a business perspective too.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Top Flight » 20 Apr 2016 09:35

Delboy Need a defensive coach as well as new players in the summer, teams get out of this division by not conceding!!!


We need to be able to defend and attack.

They say that a strong defense keeps you in a division but a strong attack gets you out of a division.

Wolves are pretty strong defensively but they don't score many goals. Burnley of course do both very well.

But you're right. We do need a good defensive coach. Where's Wally?

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Ian Royal » 20 Apr 2016 09:39

Very encouraged by the way we played last night. More thsn matched Hull and unlucky to lose. The team needs a break, a fresh start and some new blood. It doesn't need a new manager.

I'm still backing Brian.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Winston Smith » 20 Apr 2016 09:40

Longhorn1970 the squad is as good as any at this level


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