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Re: Buyout

by JIM » 21 Jan 2014 23:05

Dave Royal got sent to bed at 2100 by his mum for sending rumors to hob nob anyone :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Buyout

by JIM » 21 Jan 2014 23:08

dave royal was sent to bed at 2100 hrs by his mum for sending rumors to hob nob anyone. :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Buyout

by Big Ern » 22 Jan 2014 05:08

Yes, we understood the first time, and it wasn't funny first time round either.

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Re: Buyout

by Elm Park Pasty » 22 Jan 2014 09:32

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Elm Park Pasty Could anyone please explain why the assumption is always made that as soon as a transfer happens that we are rolling in money??? :roll: We saw this earlier in the season with the Mariappa/Kebe transfers, 'Why haven't we spent the £5M??', because chances are we don't have it. A lot of transfers these days are paid in installments due to the sums involved, and transferring on a player you are still paying probably complicates things further. I am not saying we have no money, I am just saying that any due fees may not arrive for a while.


So by the same token any transfer fee we would pay for a new player would also be paid in instalments rather than all up front, yes?


Yes, but the point I was making was to those who seem to think we are sitting on £xM in the bank when we most likely haven't got it all yet, and it all depends on how the transfer instalments were structured, e.g. do we get a % of the Long sell on fee with each instalment they receive, do we get paid first, do we get paid last??? This also then obviously affects our buying power. If we have minimal money now, then there is no guarantee that any payments we are scheduled to receive will arrive in time for the window, or be of significance to enable us to afford to buy, even on instalments. I was just making the point that CP having agreed to pay £5M for Kebe and Mariappa, and there being a sell-on fee for Long does mean that we have money to burn.

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Re: Buyout

by Royalwaster » 22 Jan 2014 09:37

On top of that most transfers out just cover the cost of wages for existing players ....


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Re: Buyout

by SPARTA » 22 Jan 2014 10:29

Get Reading understands the Oman bid is the preferred choice and the consortium were in Reading yesterday in a bid to push the deal through.

Like the American offer, the group from Oman want to take full control of Reading, not just Zingarevich's 51 per cent share.

An unnamed top official from the Arab State’s Football Association has spoken about the possible deal and what benefits it would bring to the Middle Eastern country.

He said: “An Omani businessman is interested, but we do not want to reveal the identity of the individual as it may hamper the deal.

“It will be good for Oman football if this deal comes through.

“It will certainly give a huge lift to the development of the game in this country.”


http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/footb ... ut-6536763

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Re: Buyout

by Uke » 22 Jan 2014 11:11

SPARTA Get Reading understands the Oman bid is the preferred choice and the consortium were in Reading yesterday in a bid to push the deal through.

Like the American offer, the group from Oman want to take full control of Reading, not just Zingarevich's 51 per cent share.

An unnamed top official from the Arab State’s Football Association has spoken about the possible deal and what benefits it would bring to the Middle Eastern country.

He said: “An Omani businessman is interested, but we do not want to reveal the identity of the individual as it may hamper the deal.

“It will be good for Oman football if this deal comes through.

“It will certainly give a huge lift to the development of the game in this country.”


http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/footb ... ut-6536763


This phrase also seems to clearly say where the blockage is now

And with absent owner Anton Zingarevich unwilling to put any money in, Royals are struggling to secure any of Adkins’ targets


Reading a bit between the lines that sounds like he's refusing to match any cash SJM might be making available? SJM won't want to bankroll AZ.

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Re: Buyout

by winchester_royal » 22 Jan 2014 11:14

I like Charlie, but tbh there isn't much new info there. A rehashed interview from Saturday with Nige, and news that the Omani lot were in Reading yesterday we knew already. The club's staying very quiet so I imagine that story is more a case of putting 2 and 2 together.

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Re: Buyout

by HoneyRoastHoax » 22 Jan 2014 11:20

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This phrase also seems to clearly say where the blockage is now

And with absent owner Anton Zingarevich unwilling to put any money in, Royals are struggling to secure any of Adkins’ targets


Reading a bit between the lines that sounds like he's refusing to match any cash SJM might be making available? SJM won't want to bankroll AZ.


That is Charles's opinion, not fact. He hasn't spoken to AZ.


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Re: Buyout

by RoyalBlue » 22 Jan 2014 11:39

So earlier this month in his 'staged' interview live on air with Tim Dellor, Madejski stated that funds would be available to Adkins. Having been told that, Dellor even repeated it back to Madejski to make sure that was what he was saying. Furthermore, the availability of funds was not stated as being conditional upon the sale of the club taking place this month.

Now GetReading are saying that funds won't be their for Adkins unless the sale goes through. They quote Adkins as talking about having to give it the best shot with our current squad, which is what Adkins also mentioned live on air with Ady Williams after Saturday's game.

Once again it is starting to look as though we have been given all the damn talk but that 'the walk' is not going to be forthcoming.

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Re: Buyout

by SPARTA » 22 Jan 2014 11:43

RoyalBlue So earlier this month in his 'staged' interview live on air with Tim Dellor, Madejski stated that funds would be available to Adkins. Having been told that, Dellor even repeated it back to Madejski to make sure that was what he was saying. Furthermore, the availability of funds was not stated as being conditional upon the sale of the club taking place this month.


You really couldn't blame Nigel Adkins if after two transfer windows of being lied to and let down, that he decided enough was enough! He wont, but I wouldn't blame the guy.

I'm sure OddsChecker are pulling a past one, but they've slashed odds on Steve Clarke coming in to replace Adkins to 3/1, apparently due to "tensions increasing between the board and Adkins"... A load of old cobblers. He'll want to see what the new owner(s) have in store before he gives up totally, I'm sure.

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Re: Buyout

by Uke » 22 Jan 2014 11:51

RoyalBlue So earlier this month in his 'staged' interview live on air with Tim Dellor, Madejski stated that funds would be available to Adkins. Having been told that, Dellor even repeated it back to Madejski to make sure that was what he was saying. Furthermore, the availability of funds was not stated as being conditional upon the sale of the club taking place this month.

Now GetReading are saying that funds won't be their for Adkins unless the sale goes through. They quote Adkins as talking about having to give it the best shot with our current squad, which is what Adkins also mentioned live on air with Ady Williams after Saturday's game.

Once again it is starting to look as though we have been given all the damn talk but that 'the walk' is not going to be forthcoming.


But should Madejski make funds available when AZ won't?

He always made (limited) funds available before.

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Re: Buyout

by Uke » 22 Jan 2014 11:55

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This phrase also seems to clearly say where the blockage is now

And with absent owner Anton Zingarevich unwilling to put any money in, Royals are struggling to secure any of Adkins’ targets


Reading a bit between the lines that sounds like he's refusing to match any cash SJM might be making available? SJM won't want to bankroll AZ.


That is Charles's opinion, not fact. He hasn't spoken to AZ.


Who has? TSI have completely disappeared also.

However, he has probably spoke to everyone on the other side - SJM, Howe, Hammond, Adkins, etc.


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Re: Buyout

by Royal Ginger » 22 Jan 2014 11:59

Adkins is sitting pretty, he's been given an excellent excuse for not getting promotion/playoffs. From the beginning of the season he's said that we needed to be in the races come January (which we are) and that the business we do in the window will give us the means to go for the top of the table. That was always going to be a big ask. Now, he's been able to do his bit (be in the hunting pack) but the club's not provided stage two. Ready made excuse come May. No-one can really argue that he's done his part.

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Re: Buyout

by blythspartan » 22 Jan 2014 12:07

Royal Ginger Adkins is sitting pretty, he's been given an excellent excuse for not getting promotion/playoffs. From the beginning of the season he's said that we needed to be in the races come January (which we are) and that the business we do in the window will give us the means to go for the top of the table. That was always going to be a big ask. Now, he's been able to do his bit (be in the hunting pack) but the club's not provided stage two. Ready made excuse come May. No-one can really argue that he's done his part.


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Re: Buyout

by maffff » 22 Jan 2014 12:08

Royal Ginger Adkins is sitting pretty, he's been given an excellent excuse for not getting promotion/playoffs. From the beginning of the season he's said that we needed to be in the races come January (which we are) and that the business we do in the window will give us the means to go for the top of the table. That was always going to be a big ask. Now, he's been able to do his bit (be in the hunting pack) but the club's not provided stage two. Ready made excuse come May. No-one can really argue that he's done his part.


Regardless he deserves next season anyway.

On the whole this is very frustrating.

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Re: Buyout

by andrew1957 » 22 Jan 2014 12:11

Royal Ginger Adkins is sitting pretty, he's been given an excellent excuse for not getting promotion/playoffs. From the beginning of the season he's said that we needed to be in the races come January (which we are) and that the business we do in the window will give us the means to go for the top of the table. That was always going to be a big ask. Now, he's been able to do his bit (be in the hunting pack) but the club's not provided stage two. Ready made excuse come May. No-one can really argue that he's done his part.


Agreed. I have been no Adkins lover and did not think Brian should have been sacked BUT Adkins has been put in an impossible situation and now needs to be given at least another season. In a sense he has a free shot at promotion this season now as even play offs will have to be seen as a success - as we are unlikely even to re-sign Baird and Sharp let alone anyone else and with all the injuries, the squad is depleted and needed reinforcements.

So from me it is just a wish of good luck to Adkins and the players for the rest of this season and if you get to the play offs that will be great. If not let's hope the ownership chaos has been sorted by the end of the season, so Adkins has a chance of forming HIS squad for next season whether we are in this division or are by some miracle promoted via the play offs.

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Re: Buyout

by loyalroyal4life » 22 Jan 2014 12:13

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Royal Ginger Adkins is sitting pretty, he's been given an excellent excuse for not getting promotion/playoffs. From the beginning of the season he's said that we needed to be in the races come January (which we are) and that the business we do in the window will give us the means to go for the top of the table. That was always going to be a big ask. Now, he's been able to do his bit (be in the hunting pack) but the club's not provided stage two. Ready made excuse come May. No-one can really argue that he's done his part.


Agreed. I have been no Adkins lover and did not think Brian should have been sacked BUT Adkins has been put in an impossible situation and now needs to be given at least another season. In a sense he has a free shot at promotion this season now as even play offs will have to be seen as a success - as we are unlikely even to re-sign Baird and Sharp let alone anyone else and with all the injuries, the squad is depleted and needed reinforcements.

So from me it is just a wish of good luck to Adkins and the players for the rest of this season and if you get to the play offs that will be great. If not let's hope the ownership chaos has been sorted by the end of the season, so Adkins has a chance of forming HIS squad for next season whether we are in this division or are by some miracle promoted via the play offs.



Tbh looking at the division this season and our current squad i still think anything less than top 6 is a failure. Yes we have injuries at the moment but our squad by no means is weak!!

Behind the scenes is no excuse, need to kick on from Bolton and just go for it

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Re: Buyout

by andrew1957 » 22 Jan 2014 12:17

RoyalBlue So earlier this month in his 'staged' interview live on air with Tim Dellor, Madejski stated that funds would be available to Adkins. Having been told that, Dellor even repeated it back to Madejski to make sure that was what he was saying. Furthermore, the availability of funds was not stated as being conditional upon the sale of the club taking place this month.

Now GetReading are saying that funds won't be their for Adkins unless the sale goes through. They quote Adkins as talking about having to give it the best shot with our current squad, which is what Adkins also mentioned live on air with Ady Williams after Saturday's game.

Once again it is starting to look as though we have been given all the damn talk but that 'the walk' is not going to be forthcoming.


To be fair I don't blame Sir John for not putting more money in if AZ won't match. He has been sold down the river by AZ and has no choice now but to sell the "whole" club to a new 100% owner. If that does not go through in time for this transfer window then so be it. I don't think he should be criticised for this. I would certainly do the same in his position.

I think he only sold 51% as he wanted to be sure AZ was right for the club and I would imagine that no one is more gutted than him that AZ turned out to be something else. Now he will have to take the risk of passing on the club into new hands and just hope for the best like the rest of us.

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Re: Buyout

by Harrydog » 22 Jan 2014 12:20

always the possibility of getting some loan players til the end of the season.

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