Cardiff Cty - How not to run a football club...

[Platypuss]

The Cardiff team we beat 3-0.

* 43 Bywater
* 02 McNaughton
* 12 Keinan
* 21 Samuel (Matthews 68)
* 07 Whittingham
* 11 Burke
* 20 Olofinjana
* 23 Blake
* 25 Emmanuel-Thomas (Koumas 60 )
* 08 Chopra (Parkin 64)
* 09 Bothroyd

Players released or agreed terms with other clubs!
Loan players returning!

OUCH

Think you missed Keinan who is a Blackpool player.

He signed permanently in the January window.

[Bandini]

I'm pretty sure he was on loan to us in the 2nd leg, Platypuss.

[Platypuss]

I'm pretty sure he was on loan to us in the 2nd leg, Platypuss.

[Vision]

How many from this defeated Play-off side made any significant contribution to the beaten side the following season?

M. Hahnemann, L. Rosenior, A. Pearce, M. Duberry , D. Harding, J. Kebe (G. Little, 53), B. Gunnarsson, M. Matejovsky (S. Hunt, 52), J. Tabb, S. Church (D. Kitson , 53), S. Long

[Nick Shorey my Lord!]

How many from this defeated Play-off side made any significant contribution to the beaten side the following season?

M. Hahnemann, L. Rosenior, A. Pearce, M. Duberry , D. Harding, J. Kebe (G. Little, 53), B. Gunnarsson, M. Matejovsky (S. Hunt, 52), J. Tabb, S. Church (D. Kitson , 53), S. Long

Only 3 loans though

[Barry the bird boggler]

And 2 of those only appeared as subs...

[Vision]

I'm referring really to the idea of them being relegation candidates simply because of the "decimation" of their squad.

Come the start of next season Cardiff will be in a not dissimiliar situation to us the season after our play off defeat in losing the bulk of their established team. We may have been able to cash in on our players that left but it didnt alter the fact that we had to start from pretty much square one the following season due to gambling on promotion straight back.
I'm not sure our strategy that season was a particularly prudent one tbh.

[papereyes]

How many from this defeated Play-off side made any significant contribution to the beaten side the following season?

M. Hahnemann, L. Rosenior, A. Pearce, M. Duberry , D. Harding, J. Kebe (G. Little, 53), B. Gunnarsson, M. Matejovsky (S. Hunt, 52), J. Tabb, S. Church (D. Kitson , 53), S. Long

Other than the two year gap and the change in manager and the subsequent change in manager and the rotten form under the first manager, yeah.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

I'm referring really to the idea of them being relegation candidates simply because of the "decimation" of their squad.

Come the start of next season Cardiff will be in a not dissimiliar situation to us the season after our play off defeat in losing the bulk of their established team. We may have been able to cash in on our players that left but it didnt alter the fact that we had to start from pretty much square one the following season due to gambling on promotion straight back.
I'm not sure our strategy that season was a particularly prudent one tbh.

It really depends what they have in reserve.

We were fortunate in having back-up/youth players capable of stepping in and doing a job.

We were also able to sell players, allowing us to spend some money to bring players in. Cardiff have received precisely £0.00p for the nine players that left.

[PEARCEY]

A lot of players leaving Cardiff did nothing for them, ie Lloyd, Samuel, Bywater, Koumas and Emmanuel Thomas. They have the likes of Tom Heaton and Mark Hudson to come back from injury and Anthony Gerrard back from an impressive loan spell at Hull. Add in Whittingham, Blake, Keinan, McNaughton,McPhail and Chopra and they have enough to be mid-table next season. If they add a few they will be challenging again.

[pea]

It really depends what they have in reserve.

We were fortunate in having back-up/youth players capable of stepping in and doing a job.

We were also able to sell players, allowing us to spend some money to bring players in. Cardiff have received precisely £0.00p for the nine players that left.

This is key, we spent quite a lot of money bringing the likes of Mills, McAnuff, Rasiak, Howard, and Cummings as a result of the money we recieved and we still almost got relegated.

[sheshnu]

This is key, we spent quite a lot of money bringing the likes of Mills, McAnuff, Rasiak, Howard, and Cummings as a result of the money we recieved and we still almost got relegated.

That wasn't entirely down to the quality of the players at the club though, was it? After a change of manager that same group of players have just had an excellent season.

[Svlad Cjelli]

It's the same old thing - and one of the things key to our success. You can spend as much money as you like,but you can't buy a "team" - all you can buy is players.

Motivation and teamwork is something that money can't buy.

(Take note, Mr Abramovich)

[Turns8]

It's the same old thing - and one of the things key to our success. You can spend as much money as you like,but you can't buy a "team" - all you can buy is players.

Motivation and teamwork is something that money can't buy.

(Take note, Mr Abramovich)

^^^This +1..totally agree

[Schards#2]

TBH, I think motivation IS something you can buy to a point.

If you offer a squad on £2,000 p.w a bonus of £1,000,000 each to get promoted, I think that would motivate them.

[Svlad Cjelli]

TBH, I think motivation IS something you can buy to a point.

If you offer a squad on £2,000 p.w a bonus of £1,000,000 each to get promoted, I think that would motivate them.

Only very short-term, maybe - but the higher paid players are the less an extra sum of money will work to motivate them.

What you can do, of course, is pay money for a manager who knows how to motivate - but that doesn't always work.

[Vision]

Nothing "ALWAYS" works though does it? There's no real blueprint for success. If there were, everyone would do it.

Thats why as much as I understand why we approached it how we did in 08/09 it just seemed to be completely out of character for us. (That said I still believe had Noel Hunt stayed fit we'd have gone up)

When alls said and done I dont think Blackpool lacked for motivation,effort or team spirit this season. They simply weren't good enough in the end.

[swansea jack]

Sam Hamman apparently sniffing around again...just waiting for that loan to be called in...

The (Sam Ham)Man Don't Give a oxf*rd!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R9hJuqhnLA&feature=related

[Svlad Cjelli]

Nothing "ALWAYS" works though does it? There's no real blueprint for success. If there were, everyone would do it.

Thats why as much as I understand why we approached it how we did in 08/09 it just seemed to be completely out of character for us. (That said I still believe had Noel Hunt stayed fit we'd have gone up)

When alls said and done I dont think Blackpool lacked for motivation,effort or team spirit this season. They simply weren't good enough in the end.

Agreed - there is a limit to how much teamwork can lift you up. Even a poorly motivated team of great players can overcome the best-motivated "team" in the world - because moments of individual brilliance can win any game.

[Platypuss]

This seems a good antidote to the Cardiff approach.

http://www.planetswans.co.uk/article.aspx?ArticleID=11337

Somehow i can't find my way to disliking them now.