by blythspartan » 03 Oct 2023 22:49
by leon » 03 Oct 2023 23:26
blythspartan I know behind the scenes is awful, but I do wonder if part of the problem is that we haven’t been at this level for 20+ years and there is very little lower league experience at the club.
I like how we’ve have recruited, but we really needed a few older players with experience at this level. Wing is a good example of the type of players we should have signed. However, I appreciate we probably missed out on some decent targets because of the embargo.
We are effectively playing an U23 team in League One and it’s a tough ask. If you take the EFL Trophy as an example often the U21 sides from top Premiership clubs struggle to do well against hardened League One/Two teams.
One of my problems with Selles is he thinks he can rock up with an attacking formation and play these teams off the park, but it’s not working and he’s not learning.
If we do get taken over he won’t be here for long. It’s a shame as he’s likeable and has been plunged into a desperate situation.
by yuomi » 03 Oct 2023 23:45
leonblythspartan I know behind the scenes is awful, but I do wonder if part of the problem is that we haven’t been at this level for 20+ years and there is very little lower league experience at the club.
I like how we’ve have recruited, but we really needed a few older players with experience at this level. Wing is a good example of the type of players we should have signed. However, I appreciate we probably missed out on some decent targets because of the embargo.
We are effectively playing an U23 team in League One and it’s a tough ask. If you take the EFL Trophy as an example often the U21 sides from top Premiership clubs struggle to do well against hardened League One/Two teams.
One of my problems with Selles is he thinks he can rock up with an attacking formation and play these teams off the park, but it’s not working and he’s not learning.
If we do get taken over he won’t be here for long. It’s a shame as he’s likeable and has been plunged into a desperate situation.
All too often our managers don’t seem to learn a single thing. Selles is in a difficult position but he needs advice. And he needs to change his tactics to suit the players he has and yes the opposition - whether we’re home or away.
We can’t play this 4222 bollocks in League One with these kids. So change. If we started picking up battling draws away from home it would build confidence and we’d end up winning some. Getting fcuked by every fcuker week in week out is having the opposite effect.
Selles can stick his footballing principles up his arse and he can get them back out for a look when we’re not heading for League 2.
by Delboy » 04 Oct 2023 06:40
by Snowflake Royal » 04 Oct 2023 07:17
Royal Monkey If he don’t bring NGW back in on Saturday now then he is a total joke. Mola is not even a footballer.
God knows what he does at right back tho, Mbengue injured, Yids suspended and Binden clearly not a right back.
by Sutekh » 04 Oct 2023 07:28
blythspartan I know behind the scenes is awful, but I do wonder if part of the problem is that we haven’t been at this level for 20+ years and there is very little lower league experience at the club.
I like how we’ve have recruited, but we really needed a few older players with experience at this level. Wing is a good example of the type of players we should have signed. However, I appreciate we probably missed out on some decent targets because of the embargo.
We are effectively playing an U23 team in League One and it’s a tough ask. If you take the EFL Trophy as an example often the U21 sides from top Premiership clubs struggle to do well against hardened League One/Two teams.
One of my problems with Selles is he thinks he can rock up with an attacking formation and play these teams off the park, but it’s not working and he’s not learning.
If we do get taken over he won’t be here for long. It’s a shame as he’s likeable and has been plunged into a desperate situation.
by Sutekh » 04 Oct 2023 07:30
Snowflake RoyalRoyal Monkey If he don’t bring NGW back in on Saturday now then he is a total joke. Mola is not even a footballer.
God knows what he does at right back tho, Mbengue injured, Yids suspended and Binden clearly not a right back.
Kelvin Abrefa or Tivonge Rushesha or Tom Holmes.
by Snowflake Royal » 04 Oct 2023 08:09
SutekhSnowflake RoyalRoyal Monkey If he don’t bring NGW back in on Saturday now then he is a total joke. Mola is not even a footballer.
God knows what he does at right back tho, Mbengue injured, Yids suspended and Binden clearly not a right back.
Kelvin Abrefa or Tivonge Rushesha or Tom Holmes.
Fingers crossed that Mola's sending off is found to have been the correct decision.
by Hound » 04 Oct 2023 08:12
by Snowflake Royal » 04 Oct 2023 08:27
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 04 Oct 2023 08:32
by WestYorksRoyal » 04 Oct 2023 08:34
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 04 Oct 2023 08:36
Snowflake Royal Selles gets time to prove he can learn. But he won't. Gone by Xmas.
by Snowflake Royal » 04 Oct 2023 08:42
YorkshireRoyal99Snowflake Royal Selles gets time to prove he can learn. But he won't. Gone by Xmas.
Seen a lot of this sort of thing about managers not changing what they do, but I think it's just part of the trade. I was listening to a piece from The Coaches Voice (excellent YouTube channel by the way and I think it was Russell Martin I was listening to) where it was mentioned that on the A/Pro Licenses, coaches are basically "taught" to not step away from what they believe works, as it is said that this had a more detrimental effect on the confidence that the players and staff have in themselves as a manager.
At the end of the day, Selles will get another job after us. It might not be as a manager, but he will get another job and I think that's how managers/coaches themselves see it.
by Hound » 04 Oct 2023 08:44
YorkshireRoyal99Snowflake Royal Selles gets time to prove he can learn. But he won't. Gone by Xmas.
Seen a lot of this sort of thing about managers not changing what they do, but I think it's just part of the trade. I was listening to a piece from The Coaches Voice (excellent YouTube channel by the way and I think it was Russell Martin I was listening to) where it was mentioned that on the A/Pro Licenses, coaches are basically "taught" to not step away from what they believe works, as it is said that this had a more detrimental effect on the confidence that the players and staff have in themselves as a manager.
At the end of the day, Selles will get another job after us. It might not be as a manager, but he will get another job and I think that's how managers/coaches themselves see it.
by Norfolk Royal » 04 Oct 2023 09:03
by paultheroyal » 04 Oct 2023 09:04
by paultheroyal » 04 Oct 2023 09:11
leonblythspartan I know behind the scenes is awful, but I do wonder if part of the problem is that we haven’t been at this level for 20+ years and there is very little lower league experience at the club.
I like how we’ve have recruited, but we really needed a few older players with experience at this level. Wing is a good example of the type of players we should have signed. However, I appreciate we probably missed out on some decent targets because of the embargo.
We are effectively playing an U23 team in League One and it’s a tough ask. If you take the EFL Trophy as an example often the U21 sides from top Premiership clubs struggle to do well against hardened League One/Two teams.
One of my problems with Selles is he thinks he can rock up with an attacking formation and play these teams off the park, but it’s not working and he’s not learning.
If we do get taken over he won’t be here for long. It’s a shame as he’s likeable and has been plunged into a desperate situation.
All too often our managers don’t seem to learn a single thing. Selles is in a difficult position but he needs advice. And he needs to change his tactics to suit the players he has and yes the opposition - whether we’re home or away.
We can’t play this 4222 bollocks in League One with these kids. So change. If we started picking up battling draws away from home it would build confidence and we’d end up winning some. Getting fcuked by every fcuker week in week out is having the opposite effect.
Selles can stick his footballing principles up his arse and he can get them back out for a look when we’re not heading for League 2.
by paultheroyal » 04 Oct 2023 09:13
Norfolk Royal Musing a bit so bear with, but struck me last night how what goes round often comes back round in football. By that I mean there is a good chance we're going back to the old fourth division, from whence we came.
First started supporting RFC in the early 70s in the old fourth division days at Elm Park, which in the year we won it or got promoted, I remember well.
It struck me last night after the latest debacle, whether the current team we have is even as good as the team from those days.
Try this, Say a defence comprising Steve Death in goal, Gary Peters right back, Mark White left back, Hetzke and Martin Hicks centre halfs.
Just a thought but my feeling is that the current team might play a whole match just against those five and still fail to score. Am I right?
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 04 Oct 2023 09:19
HoundYorkshireRoyal99Snowflake Royal Selles gets time to prove he can learn. But he won't. Gone by Xmas.
Seen a lot of this sort of thing about managers not changing what they do, but I think it's just part of the trade. I was listening to a piece from The Coaches Voice (excellent YouTube channel by the way and I think it was Russell Martin I was listening to) where it was mentioned that on the A/Pro Licenses, coaches are basically "taught" to not step away from what they believe works, as it is said that this had a more detrimental effect on the confidence that the players and staff have in themselves as a manager.
At the end of the day, Selles will get another job after us. It might not be as a manager, but he will get another job and I think that's how managers/coaches themselves see it.
Selles has spent half his life studying football, he totally buys into his system. He has coached at a high level
If he starts to drastically change what he believes in, it will get even worse. The ‘Selles’ doesn’t learn comments are a bit silly - of course he learns otherwise he wouldn’t be where he is - but it’d be far worse if he starting to try to coach a system he doesn’t believe in or knows what he wants to do with
I’m not a huge fan of 4-2-2-2 either but he has to get some time with it to try to get it right with these players.
Atm it’s not just about the system. It’s about confidence and errors both end of the pitch. 4-2-2-2 has nothing to do with Button throwing 3 in or Femi seemingly lacking any kind of football brain
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