by CountryRoyal » 13 Feb 2022 13:04
by Zip » 13 Feb 2022 13:28
Snowflake RoyalCountryRoyalYorkshireRoyal99 Poor Pauno to be honest. A humble character suffering and had fans running onto the pitch in protest because of him when everything should truly be pointed towards the owners.
oxf*rd off you’re so tiresome
Poor Pauno? The owners have given him a squad capable of achieving success yet time and time again snatches defeat from the jaws of victory, he has no managerial ability and is basically at present, the entire reason our performances and results are appalling.
Humble man? You obviously haven’t listened to any of his interviews. He’s arrogant and stubborn and instead of even attempting to take responsibility and be humble, he throws tantrums and storms of our interviews when asked difficult but justified questions.
Are you John from BBCRB?
Yeah absolute nonsense.
Does a humble man keep doing exactly the same thing when it's failures are so obvious and repeatedly pointed out?
Does he stick to his vision when it's not working?
No. He adapts. He compromises.
For less than 45 minutes of 1 game did Pauno compromise in having everyone back at corners.
For one game has he tried 2 up front. For barely more than that has he tried different shapes.
He continually and persistently misused Puscas upfront alone.
He's dropped Southwood for a teenage loanee who is no better, rather than changing any of his defensive coaching.
He and his coaching team lack any discipline and frequently rant and rave at the 4th official.
He takes a defeat and talks about how well he thought we played on a horrendous run of defeats.
Humble my arse.
by Snowflake Royal » 13 Feb 2022 13:34
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 13 Feb 2022 15:15
Snowflake RoyalCountryRoyalYorkshireRoyal99 Poor Pauno to be honest. A humble character suffering and had fans running onto the pitch in protest because of him when everything should truly be pointed towards the owners.
oxf*rd off you’re so tiresome
Poor Pauno? The owners have given him a squad capable of achieving success yet time and time again snatches defeat from the jaws of victory, he has no managerial ability and is basically at present, the entire reason our performances and results are appalling.
Humble man? You obviously haven’t listened to any of his interviews. He’s arrogant and stubborn and instead of even attempting to take responsibility and be humble, he throws tantrums and storms of our interviews when asked difficult but justified questions.
Are you John from BBCRB?
Does he stick to his vision when it's not working?
by karbota » 13 Feb 2022 16:56
by The Royal Forester » 13 Feb 2022 17:28
by Royal_jimmy » 13 Feb 2022 17:29
YorkshireRoyal99NathStPaulYorkshireRoyal99 At least you'll never be short of entertainment from a neutral perspective, or an away fans perspective because you're almost certain to win an away thriller.
It just feels so sad that what should be such a wonderful club and a genuinely nice place to play/watch football at a good level has been turned into an absolute horror show. I can always understand woeful runs of form because they happen, but this is something else.
Poor Pauno to be honest. A humble character suffering and had fans running onto the pitch in protest because of him when everything should truly be pointed towards the owners.
What is that last paragraph about? He's taking the club for a ride and is universally hated by players and fans alike. There is a reason for that, it's not an accident.
Personal opinion, I actually quite like him. I don't like that he's still managing our club, mind, but I don't actually dislike him as a manager, I just wish he wasn't here for the better of himself and the club really.
He can take a big proportion of the blame for our current form obviously along with his staff and players, but I can't imagine it would have been much better with anyone else who would have been in charge for as long as he has. I don't think the players hate him, but of course they know a change needs to be made because his management isn't working right now, it happens, its football.
by URZZZZ » 13 Feb 2022 19:10
YorkshireRoyal99NathStPaulYorkshireRoyal99 At least you'll never be short of entertainment from a neutral perspective, or an away fans perspective because you're almost certain to win an away thriller.
It just feels so sad that what should be such a wonderful club and a genuinely nice place to play/watch football at a good level has been turned into an absolute horror show. I can always understand woeful runs of form because they happen, but this is something else.
Poor Pauno to be honest. A humble character suffering and had fans running onto the pitch in protest because of him when everything should truly be pointed towards the owners.
What is that last paragraph about? He's taking the club for a ride and is universally hated by players and fans alike. There is a reason for that, it's not an accident.
Personal opinion, I actually quite like him. I don't like that he's still managing our club, mind, but I don't actually dislike him as a manager, I just wish he wasn't here for the better of himself and the club really.
He can take a big proportion of the blame for our current form obviously along with his staff and players, but I can't imagine it would have been much better with anyone else who would have been in charge for as long as he has. I don't think the players hate him, but of course they know a change needs to be made because his management isn't working right now, it happens, its football.
by NathStPaul » 13 Feb 2022 19:12
URZZZZYorkshireRoyal99NathStPaul What is that last paragraph about? He's taking the club for a ride and is universally hated by players and fans alike. There is a reason for that, it's not an accident.
Personal opinion, I actually quite like him. I don't like that he's still managing our club, mind, but I don't actually dislike him as a manager, I just wish he wasn't here for the better of himself and the club really.
He can take a big proportion of the blame for our current form obviously along with his staff and players, but I can't imagine it would have been much better with anyone else who would have been in charge for as long as he has. I don't think the players hate him, but of course they know a change needs to be made because his management isn't working right now, it happens, its football.
He’d have a bit more credibility if him and his coaching staff didn’t act like children throwing a tantrum every game and if he came out after the game and assessed it properly, rather than just a scripted load of nonsense
I mean he’d still be a terrible manager, but the way he conducts himself during/around games really doesn’t help his cause
by Rax » 13 Feb 2022 19:23
by skipper » 13 Feb 2022 19:30
Royal_jimmy
Really disagree with this. Another manager would have this lot midtable.
We have;
1) Swift who's one of the best players in the league
2) Joao who oozes class and could be in the prem if he was consistent
3) Meite - a fantastic player, ok hes injured but still.
4) Hoilett, a championship player
5) Dann, at least the same standard
6) Morrison, same as above
7) Ejaria who's class on his day
+ Ince a top half championship player
9) Yiadom and Rahman are more than good enough full backs for this league. Rahman played games for Chelsea as did Drinkwater
That is the core of our squad and shouldn't be near League One ffs.
These players are UNDER ACHIEVING and the buck stops with the manager. He might be an ok bloke but he has to go
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 13 Feb 2022 19:44
Royal_jimmyYorkshireRoyal99NathStPaul What is that last paragraph about? He's taking the club for a ride and is universally hated by players and fans alike. There is a reason for that, it's not an accident.
Personal opinion, I actually quite like him. I don't like that he's still managing our club, mind, but I don't actually dislike him as a manager, I just wish he wasn't here for the better of himself and the club really.
He can take a big proportion of the blame for our current form obviously along with his staff and players, but I can't imagine it would have been much better with anyone else who would have been in charge for as long as he has. I don't think the players hate him, but of course they know a change needs to be made because his management isn't working right now, it happens, its football.
Really disagree with this. Another manager would have this lot midtable.
We have;
1) Swift who's one of the best players in the league
2) Joao who oozes class and could be in the prem if he was consistent
3) Meite - a fantastic player, ok hes injured but still.
4) Hoilett, a championship player
5) Dann, at least the same standard
6) Morrison, same as above
7) Ejaria who's class on his day
+ Ince a top half championship player
9) Yiadom and Rahman are more than good enough full backs for this league. Rahman played games for Chelsea as did Drinkwater
That is the core of our squad and shouldn't be near League One ffs.
These players are UNDER ACHIEVING and the buck stops with the manager. He might be an ok bloke but he has to go
by Zip » 13 Feb 2022 19:54
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 13 Feb 2022 20:02
Zip Are the players as good as is being suggested? I don’t think they are.
Just look at so many poor goals we concede down to poor technique, lack of fitness, poor concentration, disorganisation and dire individual errors.
by Zip » 13 Feb 2022 20:11
YorkshireRoyal99Zip Are the players as good as is being suggested? I don’t think they are.
Just look at so many poor goals we concede down to poor technique, lack of fitness, poor concentration, disorganisation and dire individual errors.
Well that's kind of what I was saying, we've always had good players like Swift, Meite etc, but how good are the other players? As I say, we've finished in the bottom half of the table and close to the relegation zones in 3 of the last 4 seasons, last year very much the exception and we will be in and around the relegation places this time as well.
It's a tough one, usually most of our better players when they get linked with a move away or end up moving do move to a better club in a better league. Illori to Sporting, Bacuna to Cardiff in the PL at the time, Moore linked with Brighton, Swift linked with Leeds in the PL, Meite the PL, Olise moved to the PL etc, but I question how well this squad has been assembled and who by (Kia). That's why I say, it this actually entirely down to Pauno and his predecessors? Surely not everyone gets it wrong?
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 13 Feb 2022 20:18
ZipYorkshireRoyal99Zip Are the players as good as is being suggested? I don’t think they are.
Just look at so many poor goals we concede down to poor technique, lack of fitness, poor concentration, disorganisation and dire individual errors.
Well that's kind of what I was saying, we've always had good players like Swift, Meite etc, but how good are the other players? As I say, we've finished in the bottom half of the table and close to the relegation zones in 3 of the last 4 seasons, last year very much the exception and we will be in and around the relegation places this time as well.
It's a tough one, usually most of our better players when they get linked with a move away or end up moving do move to a better club in a better league. Illori to Sporting, Bacuna to Cardiff in the PL at the time, Moore linked with Brighton, Swift linked with Leeds in the PL, Meite the PL, Olise moved to the PL etc, but I question how well this squad has been assembled and who by (Kia). That's why I say, it this actually entirely down to Pauno and his predecessors? Surely not everyone gets it wrong?
There wasn’t much interest in our players in January apart from in Swift. Even he is a very flawed player who at a PL club would not get away with almost non existent effort in the defensive side of his game. So even our star player can be a real liability.
As you say we have regularly struggled at this level over a number of years. The managerial appointments have generally been poor though with unknown managers with no experience of the Championship. I don’t think that helps.
However the whole structure of the club is a complete mess. This might be what you are alluding to. No Director of Finance, no one on the board who has any real connection with the club and owners who are never heard or seen.
by stanmoreroyal » 13 Feb 2022 21:00
by Rax » 13 Feb 2022 21:07
stanmoreroyal The bambino's and I went yesterday with a couple of others including a newbie.
We used to be season ticket holders & our attendance has dwindled as the 'family' feel of the club has seeped away since SJM's gradual handover of the club has happened.
I used to teach in Whitley in the mid 80's, I started going to Reading in 1974 at Elm Park & have always supported the club.
The effort yesterday was there sporadically due to the bigger crowd, but the heart just isn't there is it.
I was so looking forward to having some of the old players doing a lap of honour and the club just doesn't get the sense of tribalism that English football represents. I would far sooner have Parky as manager. He cared as a player & he would care as a manager. The job he did at Bolton given their squad & finances over longer period than Pauno has been given was impressive. Pauno inherited a squad that Bowen had instilled some belief in. They started brilliantly but he has gradually sapped the team spirit & belief from these players. At one point before the decline, I remember having 6 academy players on the pitch all over achieving and playing with pride in their club.
I get the impression that David Downes (club historian) who used to run the district team years ago when I taught in Whitley, & possibly Tim Dellor, are the only people connected to the club professionally that actually really care that Reading do well. Sir John walked to Wembley... our current owners & back room staff are anonymous & generate zero affiliation for the club. Come back Sir John. . Money is NOT the only important thing for success in a football club!
by Zip » 13 Feb 2022 21:17
by Royal_jimmy » 14 Feb 2022 06:11
Zip I don’t get why people want Parky as manager. He is failing in Non League FFS. If Notts County win their game in hand Wrexham will be outside the play offs just like last season. The only difference is they have now have gates averaging over 8,000 and spent a shedload. Despite this Parky has failed to improve them a single jot.
If Parky joined we will go down.
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