by Reading4eva » 09 Nov 2013 09:37
by Cureton's Volley » 09 Nov 2013 12:43
by Ian Royal » 09 Nov 2013 17:54
MouldyRoyal
by Ian Royal » 09 Nov 2013 17:56
BR2 A couple of further points.
There may be 30% of black players in the Premier League but how many are English and likely to stay on in England to coach or manage?
Looking at a Chelsea side containing say Ramires, Willian and Dembe Ba (just under 30%) it is most unlikely that they would be looking to coach or manage in England so Roberts' 30% is more likely nearer 5%.
Also we were talking here just now about how many English managers there are in the Premier League.
I believe it is 2.
I would have more time for Roberts if he widened the debate to question why so few English managers and coaches don't get jobs rather than solely focusing on black people.
I really do feel that Roberts will never be happy until black power is achieved and because of that is probably more of a racist than those he verbally attacks.
by Ian Royal » 09 Nov 2013 18:05
Extended-Phenotype Joylessly sober responses might look like:
Ian Royal:
Not sure where JR has “ignored the debate” and him “making very stupid and inaccurate claims of racism” is your opinion, not fact. It is HIS opinion that calling a black person a “monkey” is poor judgement. I think that it would rarely cause offence in innocent contexts but can see how someone might feel otherwise and don’t necessarily see him highlighting this as stupid. We just disagree and I think he’s being over-sensitive.
by P!ssed Off » 10 Nov 2013 01:04
by Libertine » 11 Nov 2013 03:00
by Zana Badawi » 11 Nov 2013 10:07
MouldyRoyal
by LUX » 11 Nov 2013 11:09
by WestRoyal » 29 Dec 2013 00:33
Silver FoxVictor Meldrew Just for a day I would like Jason Roberts and members of the society for black lawyers to journey back 50 years or more to when I was a boy to see what it was like to be the rare black face in Reading.
That seems a bit easy, why not get them to go back to the Deep South in the 30s? Then they'd realise that nowadays they're not getting lynched and they can be grateful
by stressed as usual » 29 Dec 2013 10:25
WestRoyalSilver FoxVictor Meldrew Just for a day I would like Jason Roberts and members of the society for black lawyers to journey back 50 years or more to when I was a boy to see what it was like to be the rare black face in Reading.
That seems a bit easy, why not get them to go back to the Deep South in the 30s? Then they'd realise that nowadays they're not getting lynched and they can be grateful
Ignorant oxf*rd
by Platypuss » 29 Dec 2013 11:24
WestRoyalSilver FoxVictor Meldrew Just for a day I would like Jason Roberts and members of the society for black lawyers to journey back 50 years or more to when I was a boy to see what it was like to be the rare black face in Reading.
That seems a bit easy, why not get them to go back to the Deep South in the 30s? Then they'd realise that nowadays they're not getting lynched and they can be grateful
Ignorant oxf*rd
by semtex1871 » 29 Dec 2013 11:35
ns1981
Uproar? And the rest... There's no way that'd ever be allowed, we'd all be called racists ( that's if we haven't already! )
I will add, however, that I do have both black and Asian friends and they're cool as fcuk but they too agree that society has gone well over the top and there are complete double standards in many ways. I'm not a racist at all and anyone that says I am I welcome to say so directly to my face, but I do happen to be very proud to be English and stand up for what is left of this country, which to be fair isn't a great deal! Are "no white zones" fair? Is sharia law in certain communities fair? Are all these fcuking mosques fair? I'd say no. Imagine I went to Pakistan for example, sponged £30k a year in benefits, got a 4-5 bedroom house on benefits because I had so many children and then built a church... Somehow I don't see that being allowed, yet in 'UK" anything goes! Why?!
by leon » 29 Dec 2013 11:43
semtex1871ns1981
Uproar? And the rest... There's no way that'd ever be allowed, we'd all be called racists ( that's if we haven't already! )
I will add, however, that I do have both black and Asian friends and they're cool as fcuk but they too agree that society has gone well over the top and there are complete double standards in many ways. I'm not a racist at all and anyone that says I am I welcome to say so directly to my face, but I do happen to be very proud to be English and stand up for what is left of this country, which to be fair isn't a great deal! Are "no white zones" fair? Is sharia law in certain communities fair? Are all these fcuking mosques fair? I'd say no. Imagine I went to Pakistan for example, sponged £30k a year in benefits, got a 4-5 bedroom house on benefits because I had so many children and then built a church... Somehow I don't see that being allowed, yet in 'UK" anything goes! Why?!
+1
by semtex1871 » 29 Dec 2013 12:05
leonsemtex1871ns1981
Uproar? And the rest... There's no way that'd ever be allowed, we'd all be called racists ( that's if we haven't already! )
I will add, however, that I do have both black and Asian friends and they're cool as fcuk but they too agree that society has gone well over the top and there are complete double standards in many ways. I'm not a racist at all and anyone that says I am I welcome to say so directly to my face, but I do happen to be very proud to be English and stand up for what is left of this country, which to be fair isn't a great deal! Are "no white zones" fair? Is sharia law in certain communities fair? Are all these fcuking mosques fair? I'd say no. Imagine I went to Pakistan for example, sponged £30k a year in benefits, got a 4-5 bedroom house on benefits because I had so many children and then built a church... Somehow I don't see that being allowed, yet in 'UK" anything goes! Why?!
+1
Spot on. Imagine if a load of white Christians tried to go round the world building churches and converting all the natives?
They wouldn't be allowed.
by leon » 29 Dec 2013 13:13
by SPARTA » 29 Dec 2013 13:32
by Platypuss » 29 Dec 2013 13:33
semtex1871leon Spot on. Imagine if a load of white Christians tried to go round the world building churches and converting all the natives?
They wouldn't be allowed.
But that should be allowed....a fully Christian world would be a peaceful world.....
by leon » 29 Dec 2013 14:01
by semtex1871 » 30 Dec 2013 01:44
Platypusssemtex1871leon Spot on. Imagine if a load of white Christians tried to go round the world building churches and converting all the natives?
They wouldn't be allowed.
But that should be allowed....a fully Christian world would be a peaceful world.....
You can overplay the badass persona you know.
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