by Victor Meldrew » 24 Feb 2013 12:12
by SPARTA » 24 Feb 2013 12:31
by Royal Lady » 24 Feb 2013 13:46
M0J0sandmanRoyal Lady I don't think McD should be "protecting" the players - if they've played badly, he should "JOLLY" well admit it - tell them in the dressing room they were absolute crap, that he takes some blame but once they're out on the pitch it's down to them and that no-one should think their position is safe. Might gee one or two of them up a bit. Players only have to look on social media to see what the fans are thinking, so it's not like McD can protect them from that - and if they must all realise themselves that they were so poor yesterday.
Even Jason Roberts had the old cliches in his interview, wouldn't state we weren't good enough, we'll look to the next game blah blah blah.
And with reference to another thread where I said I'd rather watch us be there or there abouts in the Championship than be in this position every season in the Prem - yes I DID mean it. I'd rather see us winning more games and playing a good game than fighting for our lives every single game and being in a relegation spot for the majority of the season. Sorry, but that's just how it is for me. The Prem is all about the money. Money which we'll never invest in any great sum and what we do invest doesn't seem to be used wisely imo.
Stopped Reading at "jolly".
Time to find another club when RL gets angry enough to use such strong language.
Careful or RL will mod me out....oooooh.
by West Stand Man » 24 Feb 2013 13:56
The Royal Considering my uncle works at the mad stad as back room staff, I have a good idea of what he is on. Also I agreed he dont get the service a player of his type requires, but there is nothing stopping his creating his own chances
by sandman » 24 Feb 2013 13:59
The Royal Considering my uncle works at the mad stad as back room staff, I have a good idea of what he is on. Also I agreed he dont get the service a player of his type requires, but there is nothing stopping his creating his own chances
by West_Reading » 24 Feb 2013 15:07
by AirRaidSiren » 24 Feb 2013 15:11
SPARTA Brian is quite possibly the nicest guy in football. However, it's his team, his signings, his tactics, his match preparation and instructions that have let us down this season and as much as I like and respect the guy, the buck starts and stops with him.
These players would play passing football if he told them too. Instead a team has been assembled to play long-ball, hit it into the channels football, and it clearly doesn't work at this level. The resent run of results only masks the problem, and people keep failing to see it was only when we threw the kitchen sink at it and went 4-4-2 that we got something from the game, but nevertheless, 4-5-1 see's us concede far too many goals still, and we end up chasing the game almost every week.
I'm not appealing for a return to 4-4-2, but I disagree wholeheartedly that 4-4-2 was the problem. We simply don't defend well enough at this level. Brian's answer to that was to go 4-5-1 and throw more bodies behind the ball and soak up the pressure, but we still let far too many goals in. Sure it's less than it was at the start of the season, but it's still 2's and 3's, and now with the added disadvantage that everyone is so busy trying to defend that they don't get forward to support the lone striker who doesn't suit that style of play!
At the end of the day you have to look at the two transfer windows and who was brought in, and they weren't good enough. Brian doesn't have a system that works, and it's hard to see what he claims to have learnt this season. Perhaps we'll see that in the future if he is given the time to show us.
Points wise we're still in with a chance of survival, but when you look at the fixtures next month, by the end of that month we will be well and truly buried.
by winchester_royal » 24 Feb 2013 15:41
AirRaidSirenSPARTA Brian is quite possibly the nicest guy in football. However, it's his team, his signings, his tactics, his match preparation and instructions that have let us down this season and as much as I like and respect the guy, the buck starts and stops with him.
These players would play passing football if he told them too. Instead a team has been assembled to play long-ball, hit it into the channels football, and it clearly doesn't work at this level. The resent run of results only masks the problem, and people keep failing to see it was only when we threw the kitchen sink at it and went 4-4-2 that we got something from the game, but nevertheless, 4-5-1 see's us concede far too many goals still, and we end up chasing the game almost every week.
I'm not appealing for a return to 4-4-2, but I disagree wholeheartedly that 4-4-2 was the problem. We simply don't defend well enough at this level. Brian's answer to that was to go 4-5-1 and throw more bodies behind the ball and soak up the pressure, but we still let far too many goals in. Sure it's less than it was at the start of the season, but it's still 2's and 3's, and now with the added disadvantage that everyone is so busy trying to defend that they don't get forward to support the lone striker who doesn't suit that style of play!
At the end of the day you have to look at the two transfer windows and who was brought in, and they weren't good enough. Brian doesn't have a system that works, and it's hard to see what he claims to have learnt this season. Perhaps we'll see that in the future if he is given the time to show us.
Points wise we're still in with a chance of survival, but when you look at the fixtures next month, by the end of that month we will be well and truly buried.
I had a long answer ready to post, but it was more or less repeating what you have said and you've said it perfectly. Bloody good post indeed!
Brian might be a nice guy per se, but in the end it is him, and him alone, who is sending us down.
by AirRaidSiren » 24 Feb 2013 15:44
winchester_royalAirRaidSirenSPARTA Brian is quite possibly the nicest guy in football. However, it's his team, his signings, his tactics, his match preparation and instructions that have let us down this season and as much as I like and respect the guy, the buck starts and stops with him.
These players would play passing football if he told them too. Instead a team has been assembled to play long-ball, hit it into the channels football, and it clearly doesn't work at this level. The resent run of results only masks the problem, and people keep failing to see it was only when we threw the kitchen sink at it and went 4-4-2 that we got something from the game, but nevertheless, 4-5-1 see's us concede far too many goals still, and we end up chasing the game almost every week.
I'm not appealing for a return to 4-4-2, but I disagree wholeheartedly that 4-4-2 was the problem. We simply don't defend well enough at this level. Brian's answer to that was to go 4-5-1 and throw more bodies behind the ball and soak up the pressure, but we still let far too many goals in. Sure it's less than it was at the start of the season, but it's still 2's and 3's, and now with the added disadvantage that everyone is so busy trying to defend that they don't get forward to support the lone striker who doesn't suit that style of play!
At the end of the day you have to look at the two transfer windows and who was brought in, and they weren't good enough. Brian doesn't have a system that works, and it's hard to see what he claims to have learnt this season. Perhaps we'll see that in the future if he is given the time to show us.
Points wise we're still in with a chance of survival, but when you look at the fixtures next month, by the end of that month we will be well and truly buried.
I had a long answer ready to post, but it was more or less repeating what you have said and you've said it perfectly. Bloody good post indeed!
Brian might be a nice guy per se, but in the end it is him, and him alone, who is sending us down.
Complete nonsense. He's not perfect is our Brian but our squad is comfortably the worst in this league and that is why we're going down.
by Jay o/ » 24 Feb 2013 15:49
SPARTA Brian is quite possibly the nicest guy in football. However, it's his team, his signings, his tactics, his match preparation and instructions that have let us down this season and as much as I like and respect the guy, the buck starts and stops with him.
These players would play passing football if he told them too. Instead a team has been assembled to play long-ball, hit it into the channels football, and it clearly doesn't work at this level. The resent run of results only masks the problem, and people keep failing to see it was only when we threw the kitchen sink at it and went 4-4-2 that we got something from the game, but nevertheless, 4-5-1 see's us concede far too many goals still, and we end up chasing the game almost every week.
I'm not appealing for a return to 4-4-2, but I disagree wholeheartedly that 4-4-2 was the problem. We simply don't defend well enough at this level. Brian's answer to that was to go 4-5-1 and throw more bodies behind the ball and soak up the pressure, but we still let far too many goals in. Sure it's less than it was at the start of the season, but it's still 2's and 3's, and now with the added disadvantage that everyone is so busy trying to defend that they don't get forward to support the lone striker who doesn't suit that style of play!
At the end of the day you have to look at the two transfer windows and who was brought in, and they weren't good enough. Brian doesn't have a system that works, and it's hard to see what he claims to have learnt this season. Perhaps we'll see that in the future if he is given the time to show us.
Points wise we're still in with a chance of survival, but when you look at the fixtures next month, by the end of that month we will be well and truly buried.
by Millsy » 24 Feb 2013 17:11
Royalee Since you've dropped Pearce this season, we have 0.5 points per game, as opposed to 1.875 with him in - you do the maths. How you can brush off his dropping on the basis of one game at Stoke is an absolute disgrace and Morrison was toilet today. How can you bring off Akpan when he was our only effective player today and leave Leigertwood and Karacan on - 2 players who seem incapable of passing a football.
Oh, and referees don't cost you three goals - hth.
by sandman » 24 Feb 2013 17:13
2 world wars, 1 world cupRoyalee Since you've dropped Pearce this season, we have 0.5 points per game, as opposed to 1.875 with him in - you do the maths. How you can brush off his dropping on the basis of one game at Stoke is an absolute disgrace and Morrison was toilet today. How can you bring off Akpan when he was our only effective player today and leave Leigertwood and Karacan on - 2 players who seem incapable of passing a football.
Oh, and referees don't cost you three goals - hth.
FAO Brian, you know I'm 110% behind you and will defend you through thick and thin, but I agree with Royalee.
by royal67 » 24 Feb 2013 17:40
windermere_royalThe Royal And yes he does not get the service he needs, so what's stopping him getting his big Russian ass off the floor and creating something for himself, I know he don't get the service he needs but that's a cop out
And Jason Roberts never falls over?...jesus christ all this Pog hating is getting tiresome. not a SINGLE outfield player played well yesterday but our Russian is the latest in a long line of scapegoats I have seen over the years, you hold the ball up looking to bring in other players you get a shove in the back you go down, is that too difficult to undetstand you plum?
He is the only one we have that can play the lone striker role, he has strength and a good first touch no matter what the mongs on here say.
by LoyalRoyalFan » 24 Feb 2013 22:32
The Royal And yes he does not get the service he needs, so what's stopping him getting his big Russian ass off the floor and creating something for himself, I know he don't get the service he needs but that's a cop out
by Terminal Boardom » 25 Feb 2013 01:35
Royal Lady I don't think McD should be "protecting" the players - if they've played badly, he should jolly well admit it - tell them in the dressing room they were absolute crap, that he takes some blame but once they're out on the pitch it's down to them and that no-one should think their position is safe. Might gee one or two of them up a bit. Players only have to look on social media to see what the fans are thinking, so it's not like McD can protect them from that - and if they must all realise themselves that they were so poor yesterday.
Even Jason Roberts had the old cliches in his interview, wouldn't state we weren't good enough, we'll look to the next game blah blah blah.
And with reference to another thread where I said I'd rather watch us be there or there abouts in the Championship than be in this position every season in the Prem - yes I DID mean it. I'd rather see us winning more games and playing a good game than fighting for our lives every single game and being in a relegation spot for the majority of the season. Sorry, but that's just how it is for me. The Prem is all about the money. Money which we'll never invest in any great sum and what we do invest doesn't seem to be used wisely imo.
by Royalee » 25 Feb 2013 13:26
by sandman » 25 Feb 2013 13:54
by Big Ern » 25 Feb 2013 13:57
by RoyalBlue » 25 Feb 2013 14:03
winchester_royalAirRaidSirenSPARTA Brian is quite possibly the nicest guy in football. However, it's his team, his signings, his tactics, his match preparation and instructions that have let us down this season and as much as I like and respect the guy, the buck starts and stops with him.
These players would play passing football if he told them too. Instead a team has been assembled to play long-ball, hit it into the channels football, and it clearly doesn't work at this level. The resent run of results only masks the problem, and people keep failing to see it was only when we threw the kitchen sink at it and went 4-4-2 that we got something from the game, but nevertheless, 4-5-1 see's us concede far too many goals still, and we end up chasing the game almost every week.
I'm not appealing for a return to 4-4-2, but I disagree wholeheartedly that 4-4-2 was the problem. We simply don't defend well enough at this level. Brian's answer to that was to go 4-5-1 and throw more bodies behind the ball and soak up the pressure, but we still let far too many goals in. Sure it's less than it was at the start of the season, but it's still 2's and 3's, and now with the added disadvantage that everyone is so busy trying to defend that they don't get forward to support the lone striker who doesn't suit that style of play!
At the end of the day you have to look at the two transfer windows and who was brought in, and they weren't good enough. Brian doesn't have a system that works, and it's hard to see what he claims to have learnt this season. Perhaps we'll see that in the future if he is given the time to show us.
Points wise we're still in with a chance of survival, but when you look at the fixtures next month, by the end of that month we will be well and truly buried.
I had a long answer ready to post, but it was more or less repeating what you have said and you've said it perfectly. Bloody good post indeed!
Brian might be a nice guy per se, but in the end it is him, and him alone, who is sending us down.
Complete nonsense. He's not perfect is our Brian but our squad is comfortably the worst in this league and that is why we're going down.
by floyd__streete » 25 Feb 2013 14:11
RoyalBlue And who chose who to sign? Or does he let Nick Hammond do all of his shopping for him nowadays?!
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