what to do with Cywka?

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what to do with Cywka?

by Einstein agogo » 25 Feb 2012 13:31

I'd love to try him instead of Hunt in a 4,4,1,1 giving us someone to run at the defense from the middle . a kind of attacking midfielder/semi-striker . It'll certainly make a nice substitution around 60 mins ??? I couldn't think of any(championship) defence that could handle kebi,Jobi and Cywka all running at them , they'd freak , ( IMO )
At the moment he's not getting much in the way of play and I'm rather baffled by this , he seems dangerous.

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Re: what to do with Cywka?

by sandman » 25 Feb 2012 13:37

We're winning (yes, I know what I've just done) so what's the point of changing atm?

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Re: what to do with Cywka?

by Friday's Legacy » 25 Feb 2012 13:41

very disappointed he's not on the bench today. we were crying out for an attacking midfielder in january and we don't use him. yet his two cameo performances on the wing, rather than in an advanced midfield position, have been very impressive.

i don't think it helps that we're back with only 5 substitutes again. 7 last season worked well i thought. very strange choice by football league clubs to opt against it this season.

cwyka would be on my bench of 5 though.

it might be harsh on simon church but he wouldn't be in there. le fondre would be fine as the striker, hal robson-kanu and cwyka as the winger/att. midfielders, then your defender and keeper.

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Re: what to do with Cywka?

by blueroyals » 25 Feb 2012 13:54

He was probably only signed to shut all the fans up who were moaning for an attacking midfielder. In reality there is no place for him in the team (much like there was no place for Matejovski and Howard) and he will never play for us (unless down the wing). Brian is perfectly happy playing 2 DM's and winning games dirty.

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Re: what to do with Cywka?

by Here for the KEBE » 25 Feb 2012 14:16

sandman We're winning (yes, I know what I've just done) so what's the point of changing atm?


Because Noel Hunt is flammin useless


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Re: what to do with Cywka?

by Here for the KEBE » 25 Feb 2012 14:18

blueroyals He was probably only signed to shut all the fans up who were moaning for an attacking midfielder. In reality there is no place for him in the team (much like there was no place for Matejovski and Howard) and he will never play for us (unless down the wing). Brian is perfectly happy playing 2 DM's and winning games dirty.


Which is a real shame as that is not the way football should be played and it would be far more entertaining to watch if we saw players like Le Fondre and Cywka playing as they can actually control the ball properly and play it on the ground

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Re: what to do with Cywka?

by RoyalJames101 » 25 Feb 2012 14:30

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sandman We're winning (yes, I know what I've just done) so what's the point of changing atm?


Because Noel Hunt is flammin useless


Yup, you're right..

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Re: what to do with Cywka?

by sandman » 25 Feb 2012 14:31

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sandman We're winning (yes, I know what I've just done) so what's the point of changing atm?


Because Noel Hunt is flammin useless


How useless is he now? He's a linking striker, he won't get 20 goals a season, but he is vital and just about every striker he's played with since he's been here he has helped to improve and you can tell they appreciate him.

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Re: what to do with Cywka?

by SCIAG » 25 Feb 2012 14:39

blueroyals He was probably only signed to shut all the fans up who were moaning for an attacking midfielder. In reality there is no place for him in the team (much like there was no place for Matejovski and Howard) and he will never play for us (unless down the wing). Brian is perfectly happy playing 2 DM's and winning games dirty.

There were places for Matejovsky and Howard. Matejovsky was first choice for us whenever he was fit until Sigurdsson came in. Howard played regularly in his first season and was impressive.

There was definitely a need for something else to help us break down defences that sit deep, and there has been since Sigurdsson left. However, Roberts has fulfilled that role. I do think Cywka will be a useful tactical change. Even if we don't need him to play behind the striker, he's a good replacement for a winger.

Assuming everyone is fit (and we keep using the team we've used recently), this would be my bench: Andersen, Tabb, Cywka, HRK, ALF. Tabb covers the whole of defence and central midfield, Cwyka also covers central midfield and one wing, HRK covers the other wing, ALF covers the strikers. If need be, Cwyka plays in the hole.


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Re: what to do with Cywka?

by Here for the KEBE » 25 Feb 2012 14:43

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sandman We're winning (yes, I know what I've just done) so what's the point of changing atm?


Because Noel Hunt is flammin useless


How useless is he now? He's a linking striker, he won't get 20 goals a season, but he is vital and just about every striker he's played with since he's been here he has helped to improve and you can tell they appreciate him.


I just don't rate him and I rate ALF highly. By your previous posts you rate Hunt highly and not ALF. Each are entitled to their own opinion. I'd just prefer to see us play nice football on the ground with through balls to ALF, others prefer boring games with gritty results. Each to their own

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Re: what to do with Cywka?

by blueroyals » 25 Feb 2012 14:48

SCIAG There was definitely a need for something else to help us break down defences that sit deep, and there has been since Sigurdsson left.


The difference being we played 4-5-1 when Sigurdsson was here, that formation allowed a flair player like Gylfi to play behind the striker (where he was most effective). We've now switched to 4-4-2 (arguably requiring two box-to-box midfielders, which is why Matejovski and Howard both played so poorly when used in a 4-4-2) and Brian won't change it. Until we start losing games we'll be sticking to 4-4-2 so until then I don't think we'll be seeing much of Cywka (unless played out-of-position as a winger).

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Re: what to do with Cywka?

by sandman » 25 Feb 2012 14:53

I have seen potential in Alf whereas other make him out to be far better than he is and judge him on Jamie Cureton's exploits ten years ago rather than on his own merits. If you want us to play better football then I suggest your problem is with the central midfield rather than Noel Hunt who like I say does his job very well.

Ask Kevin Doyle and Shane Long who their favourite strike partner was at Reading and I think you'd find Noel Hunt's name would be the answer.

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Re: what to do with Cywka?

by Here for the KEBE » 25 Feb 2012 15:00

sandman I have seen potential in Alf whereas other make him out to be far better than he is and judge him on Jamie Cureton's exploits ten years ago rather than on his own merits. If you want us to play better football then I suggest your problem is with the central midfield rather than Noel Hunt who like I say does his job very well.

Ask Kevin Doyle and Shane Long who their favourite strike partner was at Reading and I think you'd find Noel Hunt's name would be the answer.


I agree with your 1st point that the central midfield don't help. However your 2nd point is laughable! Have you forgotton a certain Dave Kitson?! In fact both him and Lita were better striker partners to Doyle than Hunt was. And in terms of Long, he only came good 2nd half of last season so that's not really long enough to judge who he was most effective with


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Re: what to do with Cywka?

by sandman » 25 Feb 2012 15:15

You ask them who got the most out of them as a striker then Noel would be number 1 or at the very least up there in the top two. Doyle didn't play that well with Lita with several people on here saying they struggled together. You are, once again, mixing up goal scoring with an effective understanding between two players.

The second half of last season coincided with Hunt coming back from an injury and playing more games which allowed Shane to play more centrally so I'd say it had quite a lot to do with Shane's upturn in goal scoring form.

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Re: what to do with Cywka?

by Here for the KEBE » 25 Feb 2012 15:30

sandman You ask them who got the most out of them as a striker then Noel would be number 1 or at the very least up there in the top two. Doyle didn't play that well with Lita with several people on here saying they struggled together. You are, once again, mixing up goal scoring with an effective understanding between two players.

The second half of last season coincided with Hunt coming back from an injury and playing more games which allowed Shane to play more centrally so I'd say it had quite a lot to do with Shane's upturn in goal scoring form.


I would say the upturn in Long's scoring form resulted from the widemen coming into form. I disagree- Doyle played very well with Lita for a season and a half and Kitson played very well with almost every striker he played with. The only thing you can credit Hunt with is his closing down and his click ons, neither have anything to do with the ball at FEET

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Re: what to do with Cywka?

by SCIAG » 25 Feb 2012 15:59

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sandman You ask them who got the most out of them as a striker then Noel would be number 1 or at the very least up there in the top two. Doyle didn't play that well with Lita with several people on here saying they struggled together. You are, once again, mixing up goal scoring with an effective understanding between two players.

The second half of last season coincided with Hunt coming back from an injury and playing more games which allowed Shane to play more centrally so I'd say it had quite a lot to do with Shane's upturn in goal scoring form.


I would say the upturn in Long's scoring form resulted from the widemen coming into form. I disagree- Doyle played very well with Lita for a season and a half and Kitson played very well with almost every striker he played with. The only thing you can credit Hunt with is his closing down and his click ons, neither have anything to do with the ball at FEET

Doyle and Lita weren't very good together. When Doyle came into the side, Lita lost his early deadliness. Then he got injured. When he returned, he scored a few, but wasn't as good as with Kitson (nor was Doyle). In the Premier League, Lita scored one goal (iirc) before Doyle got injured, then started scoring like wildfire. I think your memory is playing tricks on you.

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Re: what to do with Cywka?

by sandman » 25 Feb 2012 16:03

Well I remember the Sheffield United home game being a particular game where they struggled together with their link up play. They certainly weren't as good as Doyle was with Kitson or when Noel arrived.

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Re: what to do with Cywka?

by Here for the KEBE » 25 Feb 2012 16:04

sandman Well I remember the Sheffield United home game being a particular game where they struggled together with their link up play. They certainly weren't as good as Doyle was with Kitson or when Noel arrived.


1 game lol, Hunt has been poor all season mate! The reason he stays in the team is because we insist on playing rugby

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Re: what to do with Cywka?

by sandman » 25 Feb 2012 16:18

Look you're never going to concede ground because you've obviously got a problem with Noel. The original point still stands and that is that Noel has brought the best out of all the strikers he has played with. Others may have scored more as a partnership but Noel has been valuable to all the Reading teams he's played in.

You'd have struggled to find a strike partnership who wouldn't have scored goals with the sort of service given by Little and Convey 6/7 years ago no matter what their understanding was.

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Re: what to do with Cywka?

by Agent Balti » 25 Feb 2012 16:24

Poor Cywka...he's even ignored in his own thread! :lol:

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