I don`t see anyone crying, rangers were deserved winners on the night, we just weren`t good enough.

Yeah I think everyone is pretty magnanimous. We were deservedly beaten, no shame in that! We weren’t at our best but I thought QPR played well.

Hardly a disaster, we've lost one game where we played pretty well but lacked quality in the final third. It's not like our away record is particularly fantastic despite our position.

Just got to concentrate on the home games and keep the points ticking over there. If we get can to 35 points by the halfway stage, I'm very confident we survive.

Didn’t watch sheff utd but thought rangers were the best I’ve seen this season otherwise

And we could have got something there. Nothing to fear in this division, we should be aiming for top half min

Disappointed but not disheartened.

I know we've got a hard run of games in the next month, purely from the volume of games, but looking a bit ahead, we will have played everyone once by Christmas. In the second half of the season, we play Norwich, QPR, Sheffield Utd and Swansea, 4 of the current top 6 in the first 6 games. We then have Watford 7th game. That's a lot of the potentially difficult games out of the way early doors. I know it doesnt always work out like that but, on paper, our run of fixtures looks pretty kind from the second week of February to the end of the season.

Wow carrol last took a peno in 2016 great composure from the big man

Hardly say I fear Swansea (in either game) or any team at home. Watford and Norwich away I'm expecting defeat, but all the rest we can quite comfortably pick up points in. Seen enough to know we are capable of hurting teams and beating them.

Just need to do a little bit more in front of goal than we did tonight.

Mate, we are sitting in 4th place, we need 28 points from 33 games to get 50 pts, 0.84 ppg. we lost tonight but talk of us surviving is just so wrong.
Of course we won't be top six, but I wouldn't expect us to near the bottom either. 7 wins and a few draws should do it.

Please remember that finishing in the top 10 this season would be a ridiculous achievement.

Well that was a bit shit. Thought we were outfought and tactically outsmarted, especially 2nd half. Can't play well every game, credit to QPR who stopped us playing.

Hardly say I fear Swansea (in either game) or any team at home. Watford and Norwich away I'm expecting defeat, but all the rest we can quite comfortably pick up points in. Seen enough to know we are capable of hurting teams and beating them.

Just need to do a little bit more in front of goal than we did tonight.

All I'm saying is let's not go all knee jerk if we hit a sticky run, either in the next 4 weeks where we have 2 games a week, or in December-January where we have a run of more difficult fixtures. We've shown more than enough to suggest we can have a relatively drama free season.

In some ways playing AC blunts us a bit, they doubled up on him and we relied too much on the long ball, we need a plan B. Joao not for the first time this season was poor, Meite needs to given a chance.

QPR showed (like we have) that you don't need a lot of quality to be near the top. Good work ethic, tactics and management can get you up there. They've had a great week to be fair to them, 3 straight wins.

Frustrating tonight. We weren't completely at it, the moment they changed to 3 centre backs to match our formation and they were all over us really. Onwards and upwards and let's beat West Brom next week.

Haven't seen the game but some of the comments on here seem harsh.
Narrowly beaten away from home by a team flying.

We have a week off now to prepare for WBA. Was the Hutchinson injury bad?

Wouldn't say harsh, we weren't at our best tonight and were well beaten. We could have lost that by more and I'd have not complained.

Happened in front of us. He simply sat down on the ground with nobody around him so didn't look the direct result of a challenge. Looked to be lower leg injury. Walked off unassisted around the edge of the pitch after being attended to

Wouldn't say harsh, we weren't at our best tonight and were well beaten. We could have lost that by more and I'd have not complained.

Their pen looked soft although we got away with one in the first half.

Happened in front of us. He simply sat down on the ground with nobody around him so didn't look the direct result of a challenge. Looked to be lower leg injury. Walked off unassisted around the edge of the pitch after being attended to

Hopefully not too bad then.

Hutchinson should be fine for next week

Wouldn't say harsh, we weren't at our best tonight and were well beaten. We could have lost that by more and I'd have not complained.

Absolute bollocks. We were quiet first half but hardly under the cosh and competed much better second half. QPR got a penalty and that was it.

Carroll and Joao isn’t working. I’m thinking Carroll knocks it down to Joao who scores. But Joao never seems to be there. And there’s no out ball when we need it.

Wouldn't say harsh, we weren't at our best tonight and were well beaten. We could have lost that by more and I'd have not complained.

Absolute bollocks. We were quiet first half but hardly under the cosh and competed much better second half. QPR got a penalty and that was it.

Carroll and Joao isn’t working. I’m thinking Carroll knocks it down to Joao who scores. But Joao never seems to be there. And there’s no out ball when we need it.


Fully expected us to play just one up front. Think we need an extra midfielder against the better sides

Absolute bollocks. We were quiet first half but hardly under the cosh and competed much better second half. QPR got a penalty and that was it.

Carroll and Joao isn’t working. I’m thinking Carroll knocks it down to Joao who scores. But Joao never seems to be there. And there’s no out ball when we need it.


Fully expected us to play just one up front. Think we need an extra midfielder against the better sides

Yeah, but we were playing QPR. Play 2 up but get them to play together.

Why Ince didn’t bring on Meite. As with Tuesday the game was crying out for a player who could run at them - take the game to them. I’m baffled why Ince seemingly doesn’t like Meite.

Fully expected us to play just one up front. Think we need an extra midfielder against the better sides

Yeah, but we were playing QPR. Play 2 up but get them to play together.

Why Ince didn’t bring on Meite. As with Tuesday the game was crying out for a player who could run at them - take the game to them. I’m baffled why Ince seemingly doesn’t like Meite.

Meite isn't fully fit

Fully expected us to play just one up front. Think we need an extra midfielder against the better sides

Yeah, but we were playing QPR. Play 2 up but get them to play together.

Why Ince didn’t bring on Meite. As with Tuesday the game was crying out for a player who could run at them - take the game to them. I’m baffled why Ince seemingly doesn’t like Meite.

His subs were spot on Tuesday night but were poor tonight. Carroll was shot after 70, and Joao should have been hooked sooner for another poor display

As soon as QPR reverted to a back three/five was the opportunity to get Meite and Ince on and really press from the front but we dropped deeper and deeper and the winner was inevitable. As much as we lament the sloppy challenge by Loum, the goal was coming with or without the challenge

Must say as much as Ince has worked miracles this season, getting a little weary of listening to him complain about fixture congestion and tiredness. He has five subs to use each game yet never uses more than 3 (on one occasion he’s used more than 3, a 98th minute time wasting sub against Wigan). Given the option we now have and some of the positions we’ve been in this season (3/4 goal drubbings) there’s been ample opportunity to make more subs. It makes him look massively hypocritical

It’s one of those games that if we’d held out for a 1-1, this place would have been full of praise for a battling performance and an impressive second half display

1 set of mistakes and the pen conceded changes the complexion

I didn’t really see the goal coming at all tbh, thought the game had died a bit and was heading for a 1-1

In the context of the team we are I thought it was fairly encouraging

Agree about Meite but where do we fit him? Maybe up top with Carroll and drop Joao? But I prefer Carroll/ince as a pair and wouldn’t be too keen on Meite further back in this set up

Err…. I said? Bring him on as a sub. Rotate the strikers. Gives us a different attacking option when defence is tiring. It’s not difficult.

Err…. I said? Bring him on as a sub. Rotate the strikers. Gives us a different attacking option when defence is tiring. It’s not difficult.

Would mean bringing off Carroll though - thought he was always our most likely option to grab something

Ince for Joao was the obvs swap. You could have maybe brought ince to the midfield and paired Meite and Carroll - but think ince is best at 10

There were options obvs but none that really would have made us better imo at the time

Err…. I said? Bring him on as a sub. Rotate the strikers. Gives us a different attacking option when defence is tiring. It’s not difficult.

Would mean bringing off Carroll though - thought he was always our most likely option to grab something

Ince for Joao was the obvs swap. You could have maybe brought ince to the midfield and paired Meite and Carroll - but think ince is best at 10

There were options obvs but none that really would have made us better imo at the time

Carroll was knackered and offering aerial threat only. Meite would have run at them. Front 3 need to be rotated. Especially in a period with so many games.

Joao and Carroll hasn’t worked thus far. It’s an odd one.

I watched the game on Sky and thought that we did okay but the better side won. I’ll take a narrow defeat in this league against a decent team.

At the beginning of the season I wrote down a target of 16 wins plus 6 or 7 draws and so far the team have exceeded my expectations. I am expecting it to be another freak season like when Posh got relegated with 54 points.

I don’t know about anyone else but I still think that we could well end up battling at the wrong end of the table so I haven’t got over excited about our great start.

Listened to the first half and it sounded early doors like we re going to concede a goal.

Then the Hutch substitution swung it round, perversely, towards us. Saw someone posted the pen kick by AC2 on Twitter, well taken kick.

It seems like every time we play the Fakes, Dykes always scores against us. I said to senior in first half, someone needs to break his leg or head or both. He said to me he was a quality player, to which I responded, 'can't be that good, otherwise Scotland would be at the world cup'.
Either way, I had a feeling we were going to lose, but I hoped we would win. Hopefully we can turn the screw on Brucey and Ron next weekend. It would be nice to win against the Albion.

With tough away games to come we could do with a Brucie bonus next weekend