Reading FC Match Report: 2017/2018 Season - Championship
BRENTFORD 1 READING 1
Reading: L Kelly (pen 70)
Brentford: J Clarke (16)
Post Match Fans' Opinion
windermereROYAL
Well pretty difficult to sum that up, shambles comes to mind. first half second to every thing, Brentford harried and pressed us all olver the pitch, and we couldn`t cope with it, I was more than happy to go in only 1 down.
Second half we came out. looked better and more balanced, Beerens looked good down the left and looked a constant threat. got what was probably a deserves leveller on 70th minute. but after that that returned to the first half and were clinging on by our fingertips at time.
All in all a undeserved point.
Dunno if it`s been said before but hell we need a striker, a outlet. Bodvarsson certainly isn`t that guy.
I fear for us this year if we don`t don`t improve on this.
Now let me sum up my main gripe of the day.
Kids/teenagers that claim to be supporters of our club, a f*cking disgrace inside and outside of the ground. what do you get from that behaviour on the train? noisy and obnoxious.
Did you get a kick from knocking the old lady to the ground when we scored and not having the decency to pick her up and apologise?
Disgusting chants at the Brentford keeper and to a lesser extent the black stewards?
A day out from their chav households, but if they can`t take more than 3 lemonades maybe they should stay away.
Rumour of a smoke bomb let off on the train back too, if true a very bad idea in today`s climate.
Second half we came out. looked better and more balanced, Beerens looked good down the left and looked a constant threat. got what was probably a deserves leveller on 70th minute. but after that that returned to the first half and were clinging on by our fingertips at time.
All in all a undeserved point.
Dunno if it`s been said before but hell we need a striker, a outlet. Bodvarsson certainly isn`t that guy.
I fear for us this year if we don`t don`t improve on this.
Now let me sum up my main gripe of the day.
Kids/teenagers that claim to be supporters of our club, a f*cking disgrace inside and outside of the ground. what do you get from that behaviour on the train? noisy and obnoxious.
Did you get a kick from knocking the old lady to the ground when we scored and not having the decency to pick her up and apologise?
Disgusting chants at the Brentford keeper and to a lesser extent the black stewards?
A day out from their chav households, but if they can`t take more than 3 lemonades maybe they should stay away.
Rumour of a smoke bomb let off on the train back too, if true a very bad idea in today`s climate.
Jackson Corner
Makes a change to come away from west London with something . Definitely a point gained were second best for long periods particularly in the first half. But once again we never really looked like scoring from open play, and had to be grateful for the penalty. Agree with the above as much as I enjoy the novelty of standing. If it means it encourages people to behave like that then give me all seaters any day.
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The Reverend
Don't know the story behind the Bentley abuse but don't much care for it either way. Didn't hear anything directed towards the (black) stewards but if there was a racial element to it there's nothing "lesser extent" about it.
Other than that I thought no13 had a decent day out. went a bit quiet after their goal but otherwise a good effort.
On the pitch the first half was very forgettable. Beerens made the difference 2nd half. Probably my MOTM
Overall good days for JVDB, Moore, and Kelly (but only for the pen). Everyone else average.
Other than that I thought no13 had a decent day out. went a bit quiet after their goal but otherwise a good effort.
On the pitch the first half was very forgettable. Beerens made the difference 2nd half. Probably my MOTM
Overall good days for JVDB, Moore, and Kelly (but only for the pen). Everyone else average.
el_presidente
The midfield was a shambles, Edwards looked badly off the pace especially in the first half. Bacuna (and Evans) badly missed.
Aluko was playing very deep first half, got through a fair bit of work with some lovely touches but not close enough to the goal to do any damage. Second half he faded alarmingly, playing further forward, until skimming the bar in added time.
Classic Stam tactics in playing a striker who got no crosses, then substituting him for a winger whose crosses found no target man.
I sat behind Pelle Clement's Aunt & Uncle who were over from the 'Dam.... they seemed to enjoy themselves well enough considering the circumstances.
We move on
Aluko was playing very deep first half, got through a fair bit of work with some lovely touches but not close enough to the goal to do any damage. Second half he faded alarmingly, playing further forward, until skimming the bar in added time.
Classic Stam tactics in playing a striker who got no crosses, then substituting him for a winger whose crosses found no target man.
I sat behind Pelle Clement's Aunt & Uncle who were over from the 'Dam.... they seemed to enjoy themselves well enough considering the circumstances.
We move on
windermereROYAL
Must have been watching a different game to me.
Brentford manager Dean Smith:
"Two of our boys have been tackled from behind and we get nothing.
"Three of their players were already on bookings and some of the tackles were just allowed to go on. All we are asking for is consistency. I didn't think the referee was very good today.
"We are talking about five big decisions and only one has been given and that can't be right at this level with professional officials.
"That was probably the most frustrated I've been because a lot of the decisions didn't go our way and I couldn't even have a conversation with the fourth official."
Brentford manager Dean Smith:
"Two of our boys have been tackled from behind and we get nothing.
"Three of their players were already on bookings and some of the tackles were just allowed to go on. All we are asking for is consistency. I didn't think the referee was very good today.
"We are talking about five big decisions and only one has been given and that can't be right at this level with professional officials.
"That was probably the most frustrated I've been because a lot of the decisions didn't go our way and I couldn't even have a conversation with the fourth official."
CountryRoyal
He has a point, in another game Edwards and or VDB could easily have seen a second yellow.
But he fails to mention that there were at least 3 occasions when we were breaking and cynically brought down without further punishment than just a free kick.
I'd be frustrated too if I was him. They were miles better than us in pretty much every department but once again they've failed to capitalise on it and only have themselves to blame.
As for us though, people can say we don't need a striker...etc. Before it went to shit there were a few chances which a proper striker who can actually use his feet would have maybe done something more with. Failing to even remotely test the opposing goal keeper heaps loads of pressure onto the rest of the team, which as we know by now doesn't bode well for our fragile defence.
Also missed Barrow. On that performance, and tbh every other I have seen from him this season imo Gmac looks done and ready for the glue factory. Hope that's not the case.
yuomi
Going to these games right now is exhausting. A mixture of Stam's quaint, dull as f*ck total football, with the usual tedious build from the back, but now with the addition that the bluff has been called by managers who have set up to press high and our totally inflexible back line have no plan b. Instead, they panic and gift possession away. That this has now happened in over 50% of our games this season means that you would expect Stam to be starting to do something about it but not a bit of it. Still always backwards, still goal kicks always short and hang the consequences. It doesn't help that the defence also seem to have Murano-like confidence - Moore is a completely different player to last term. Frigid and fidgety.
In the middle, JVDB remains a liability, an unfunny joke of whom nothing would surprise you. At best, he's a combative, a Millwall fan's favourite of a player - as loved for his stupidity and inopportune acts of violence as he is for any kind of quality he brings to the table. His one-footed, one dimensional play is constantly heart in mouth and I can't believe we haven't yet found a way to play that renders him obsolete.
Edwards looks like he's cut from Stam's cloth. He can't play above tortoise speed and will always look backwards before he looks forward. He looks surer than JVDB, but that's not saying much. From first impressions he's also from the rough and tumble school of leaving the boot in or sneaking an elbow.
I've already run out of things to say about Bod. He just can't. That we are putting all our eggs into a 36 year old-shaped basket - who we are dreaming will return and save us after an injury that could have ended the career of a player half his age - is ridiculous. I finished the transfer window on a bit of a high, excusing the omission of the obvious missing piece of the puzzle and prepared to give the manager and the team time to prove this gamble/Bod right. Two games in that optimism has all but vanished. This feels like it's going to be a very long season.
In the middle, JVDB remains a liability, an unfunny joke of whom nothing would surprise you. At best, he's a combative, a Millwall fan's favourite of a player - as loved for his stupidity and inopportune acts of violence as he is for any kind of quality he brings to the table. His one-footed, one dimensional play is constantly heart in mouth and I can't believe we haven't yet found a way to play that renders him obsolete.
Edwards looks like he's cut from Stam's cloth. He can't play above tortoise speed and will always look backwards before he looks forward. He looks surer than JVDB, but that's not saying much. From first impressions he's also from the rough and tumble school of leaving the boot in or sneaking an elbow.
I've already run out of things to say about Bod. He just can't. That we are putting all our eggs into a 36 year old-shaped basket - who we are dreaming will return and save us after an injury that could have ended the career of a player half his age - is ridiculous. I finished the transfer window on a bit of a high, excusing the omission of the obvious missing piece of the puzzle and prepared to give the manager and the team time to prove this gamble/Bod right. Two games in that optimism has all but vanished. This feels like it's going to be a very long season.
The Cap
yuomi wrote:
Going to these games right now is exhausting. A mixture of Stam's quaint, dull as f*ck total football, with the usual tedious build from the back, but now with the addition that the bluff has been called by managers who have set up to press high and our totally inflexible back line have no plan b. Instead, they panic and gift possession away. That this has now happened in over 50% of our games this season means that you would expect Stam to be starting to do something about it but not a bit of it. Still always backwards, still goal kicks always short and hang the consequences. It doesn't help that the defence also seem to have Murano-like confidence - Moore is a completely different player to last term. Frigid and fidgety.
In the middle, JVDB remains a liability, an unfunny joke of whom nothing would surprise you. At best, he's a combative, a Millwall fan's favourite of a player - as loved for his stupidity and inopportune acts of violence as he is for any kind of quality he brings to the table. His one-footed, one dimensional play is constantly heart in mouth and I can't believe we haven't yet found a way to play that renders him obsolete.
Edwards looks like he's cut from Stam's cloth. He can't play above tortoise speed and will always look backwards before he looks forward. He looks surer than JVDB, but that's not saying much. From first impressions he's also from the rough and tumble school of leaving the boot in or sneaking an elbow.
I've already run out of things to say about Bod. He just can't. That we are putting all our eggs into a 36 year old-shaped basket - who we are dreaming will return and save us after an injury that could have ended the career of a player half his age - is ridiculous. I finished the transfer window on a bit of a high, excusing the omission of the obvious missing piece of the puzzle and prepared to give the manager and the team time to prove this gamble/Bod right. Two games in that optimism has all but vanished. This feels like it's going to be a very long season.
Well thought out post that summarises the current situation very well.
Sutekh
Poor overall really. Brighter second half when Reading took off their "striker" and replaced him with a winger so one wonders why anyone's bothered about signing a striker based on that.
McCleary and Edwards are still off the pace - not too surprising given the lack of pre-season for the former and having to get used to new team and playing style for the latter. But that should improve.
Barrow picked up an injury in the Bristol game, which is why he wasn't involved yesterday, so that's a worry - and I'd rather have Popa playing than Aluko.
On to Swansea "reserves" on Tuesday then - and if Reading's "reserve" team perform well there are going to be some headaches for Stam over team selection before Hull on Saturday.
McCleary and Edwards are still off the pace - not too surprising given the lack of pre-season for the former and having to get used to new team and playing style for the latter. But that should improve.
Barrow picked up an injury in the Bristol game, which is why he wasn't involved yesterday, so that's a worry - and I'd rather have Popa playing than Aluko.
On to Swansea "reserves" on Tuesday then - and if Reading's "reserve" team perform well there are going to be some headaches for Stam over team selection before Hull on Saturday.
bobby1413
I think some are being OTT. Brentford honestly just performed well. They're a good side and they played with tons of intensity and speed. They seemed to be a step ahead of Reading all the time.
The first half wasn't great and we didn't create much and the little we did, we didn't capitilise on.
2nd half was better. I think we could have played for hours and not scored from open play. Again that's partially just because Brentford were well organised and defended well.
I really don't like seeing Blackett in the team. People highly critical of McCleary too.
1 point is a good result considering the performance.
Snowflake Royal
Do we really have to have the same moans about needing a striker after every single game for the next three and a half months?
It was tedious as oxf*rd a week after the deadline, let alone getting repeated ad nauseum. We can't do anything about it now. There's nothing to say that hasn't been said already a dozen times.
It was tedious as oxf*rd a week after the deadline, let alone getting repeated ad nauseum. We can't do anything about it now. There's nothing to say that hasn't been said already a dozen times.
West Stand Man
I admire your optimism Sutekh but I'm pretty sure it will make no difference at all and Stam will[i]field a combination of the same players already used. [i]And the same tactics
Apparently he has already used 29 players this season. So it is highly likely that he will field a combination of the players already used - that seems to account for almost everyone in the squad!
G, little the legend
Morning all new to this , might stir up a hornets nest but I'm not sure stam is the man for us he doesn't have any plan b when we are struggling and we seem a shell of the team we were last year heart seems to be missing and spending money doesn't cure that we all know we need a goal scorer but we didn't get one ,worried for us this season
royalp-we
It's not difficult to understand that our attack is needing a bit of time to gel together. It'll come good.
If we beat Hull (I think we will) optimism will soon return.
One note on Blackett; I thought he had done quite well in recent games. Was he really as bad yesterday as some people are making out?
If we beat Hull (I think we will) optimism will soon return.
One note on Blackett; I thought he had done quite well in recent games. Was he really as bad yesterday as some people are making out?
This Championship game took place 2654 days ago in the 2017/2018 season.