So is it down to the lack of a striker or is it down to a lack of creativity amongst those getting into forward positions - after all if you're not really creating anything then having a Jimmy Greaves in his prime isn't going to make the slightest difference

Getting close to writing this season off. Its clear we are an utter sack of s*ite away from home and it's clear it's not going to improve.

Kind of like last season?

Fcuk

Ing

Hell

I finally got my iFollow sorted so I was just happy to watch the match. I like what I see in Mo Barrow. Too bad Liam Kelly got hurt. Our problem today was that last cross or pass was just poor. I think Stam will fix it, the players need time to gel.

Genuine Question:

Are we getting a ridiculous amount of injuries, not just this season but in general? I'm thinking it is every team that just gets injuries like this but the paranoid side of me was thinking it was a bit weird and OTT

Interesting. I thought it was the first pass that was shit.

And the second if there ever was one.

Yeah injuries have massively hurt us so far imo

What's going on with Joey? And then losing Swift and Kelly disastrous. Not saying it would have changed the result but still a big impact

We started off OK playing our normal game for a few minutes but then as soon as Preston started to get at us we just played hoofball and got out fought all over the pitch in a scrappy game. Preston were just more competitive and up for it than us, it wasn't helped by a card happy homer of a ref that encouraged us to back off challenging whilst they fell over at the slightest touch.

Their goal was well worked and that was really the only bit of quality play all game, their other chances were breakaways from our corners or from our misplaced passes and Manone really kept us in with a hope of getting something.

The team just didn't seem up for it and as soon as we lost Kelly and Swift that was it until close to the end when Preston sat back and were quite happy to let us pass it around going nowhere.

We only really had one chance and that was a header from Mendes off a free kick, otherwise our play was pretty well devoid of attack or entertainment. Barrow and Popa were our only threat but neither had a final ball. Bacuna was anonymous for a debut.

On the plus sides the pies were excellent, the meat and potato pie was so nice I thought I'd them try the local speciality Butter pie, that was a mistake and I now feel quite ill and over-pied. That will curtail this evening's beers.

Swifty and Kelly were big dents to any potential build up play around the box. Even so, shame we couldn’t have come away with a draw, would have been an improvement on QPR

Kind of like last season?

No, last season we had "moments"........This season we have offered absolutely NOTHING in our two away matches so far. Blame injuries by all means.....but for me that doesn't wash. Even with injuries we should be creating the odd decent chance.........not sweet fa. If this poor run continues and and we can't keep the home form going top 6 is going to get further away. This season I think the championship is stronger depthwise.

Kind of like last season?

No, last season we had "moments"........This season we have offered absolutely NOTHING in our two away matches so far. Blame injuries by all means.....but for me that doesn't wash. Even with injuries we should be creating the odd decent chance.........not sweet fa. If this poor run continues and and we can't keep the home form going top 6 is going to get further away. This season I think the championship is stronger depthwise.

You're not actually being serious are you?

Kind of like last season?

No, last season we had "moments"........This season we have offered absolutely NOTHING in our two away matches so far. Blame injuries by all means.....but for me that doesn't wash. Even with injuries we should be creating the odd decent chance.........not sweet fa. If this poor run continues and and we can't keep the home form going top 6 is going to get further away. This season I think the championship is stronger depthwise.

A bit of a roller coaster ride, but a long way to go ...

No, last season we had "moments"........This season we have offered absolutely NOTHING in our two away matches so far. Blame injuries by all means.....but for me that doesn't wash. Even with injuries we should be creating the odd decent chance.........not sweet fa. If this poor run continues and and we can't keep the home form going top 6 is going to get further away. This season I think the championship is stronger depthwise.

You're not actually being serious are you?

Sadly I am...I just hope I'm proved wrong over the next few months.

Just got in. Do I not like orange.

First time I've seen us this year. My thoughts are

1) Barrow is quality.
2) Vito can't pass but can shot stop (AAH all over again)
3) Did Clement even play?
4) Would the real Mendes please stand up
5) Tyler Blackett isn't a left back.
6) Our defence is still made of biscuits.
7) Preston is nice in the sunshine.

Didn't go to the game. Going to Preston is a bit like connecting the mains to your nuts. You have to do it once, then you know it's just not all it's cracked up to be. So. 1-6 all fair enough. 7? There's not enough sunshine in the world to make that ever even plausible.

From the little I've seen of Manone I'd disagree, he seems far calmer and has been better at passing.

I can not believe Preston is nice at anytime, have you been drinking?

Kind of like last season?

No, last season we had "moments"........This season we have offered absolutely NOTHING in our two away matches so far. Blame injuries by all means.....but for me that doesn't wash. Even with injuries we should be creating the odd decent chance.........not sweet fa. If this poor run continues and and we can't keep the home form going top 6 is going to get further away. This season I think the championship is stronger depthwise.

Just on your last sentence, the rest is f*cking knee jerk rubbish. after just 2 away games.
strong league maybe, but do you notice how every team is not unbeatable? sitting here watching Leeds turning over Sunderland, the same Sunderland that beat Norwich away last week.
How did big spending boro get on today?. how about Hull? and Fulham? ,
FFS stop shitting your pants after 4 freaking games. we have injuries, probably more than most. yes we need a decent striker, I`m confident we will get someone in before the window, take a chill pill.

Didn't go to the game. Going to Preston is a bit like connecting the mains to your nuts. You have to do it once, then you know it's just not all it's cracked up to be. So. 1-6 all fair enough. 7? There's not enough sunshine in the world to make that ever even plausible.

I can't believe it was sunny in Preston tbh. Are you sure you were there?

Thanks for all the concern about my health.....I fear seeing the sun for 5 mins may have given me heat stroke......After all living up norf now, I do stay indoors unless it is raining!!

Same number of points and better goal difference than after 4 games last season and same points and slightly better goal difference to the corresponding 4 fixtures last season.

I think it's a bit early to be pissing our knickers and writing off the season just yet.

You should check out social media if you think this is bad. 4 f*cking games, we might has well concede the rest of the season and accept relegation now.

Realistically it's been a fairly tough start as well with the games we've had. Still we do need to get our @rse into gear pretty quickly. Birmingham is a big game

Realistically it's been a fairly tough start as well with the games we've had. Still we do need to get our @rse into gear pretty quickly. Birmingham is a big game
Add to that, the ridiculous amount of injuries we have at this point of the season.

Interesting comparison. Newcastle had 7 points and Brighton had 8. I'm not sure what it proves calculating and comparing current point tally compared to last year's point tally unless you compare all Championship clubs to see their progression or otherwise. Where were Cardiff this time last year, and Forest?

Would be interesting to see a league comparison

We can write this season off if we don't bring in a forward in the next 13 days

Interesting comparison. Newcastle had 7 points and Brighton had 8. I'm not sure what it proves ca seelculating and comparing current point tally compared to last year's point tally unless you compare all Championship clubs to see their progression or otherwise. Where were Cardiff this time last year, and Forest?

Would be interesting to see a league comparison

Granted we played the eventual top 2 in our first 4 games last season but we're 4 games in, have players due come back from injury and still have almost 2 weeks of the transfer window left. Granted, we desparately need a striker but it's hardly panic stations.

Interesting comparison. Newcastle had 7 points and Brighton had 8. I'm not sure what it proves ca seelculating and comparing current point tally compared to last year's point tally unless you compare all Championship clubs to see their progression or otherwise. Where were Cardiff this time last year, and Forest?

Would be interesting to see a league comparison

Granted we played the eventual top 2 in our first 4 games last season but we're 4 games in, have players due come back from injury and still have almost 2 weeks of the transfer window left. Granted, we desparately need a striker but it's hardly panic stations.

We needed a striker before the season kicked off. Every other post moots the need for a striker yet so far, the club has drawn a blank in getting one in. Also I don’t think anyone on here is seriously bed wetting over our start to this season but I think if we’re all to honest, Aston Villa aside, we’ve been outplayed, dropped points late on and shown inconsistency. I’m sure Stam and co will fix these things. You must wonder if we’re not missing Steven Reid

Total rises each week. 8 points given away cause we need a goal scorer URGENTLY