There are teams in far worse situations than us and are probably worse overall teams than us as well. Cardiff haven't won in 10, Blackpool no wins in 7, Wigan is disarray, Birmingham are set for their 5th consecutive defeat, Bristol City and Stoke and poor sides as well etc.

Not exactly new, concerning territory for us. We've had 4-0 thrashings, we've had sticky spells of form before but recovered. Couple of tough fixtures, but certainly 3 very winnable ones to close out February with and I'd always back us at home as well (against Watford).

What concerns me is all those shit clubs are more than capable of beating us or grabing points late in the season when fighting for their lives. Our away form is nothing short of pathetic. I just can't see us winning away games at the minute. We are like glass.

Sounds a dismal performance and again looking a bit for games where we can squeeze out a win

There’s certainly some other teams on awful form which is insulating us from the bottom thankfully

There are teams in far worse situations than us and are probably worse overall teams than us as well. Cardiff haven't won in 10, Blackpool no wins in 7, Wigan is disarray, Birmingham are set for their 5th consecutive defeat, Bristol City and Stoke and poor sides as well etc.

Not exactly new, concerning territory for us. We've had 4-0 thrashings, we've had sticky spells of form before but recovered. Couple of tough fixtures, but certainly 3 very winnable ones to close out February with and I'd always back us at home as well (against Watford).

What concerns me is all those shit clubs are more than capable of beating us or grabing points late in the season when fighting for their lives. Our away form is nothing short of pathetic. I just can't see us winning away games at the minute. We are like glass.

Yeah but we are also more than capable of beating anyone as well, it's just one of those seasons. I genuinely can't see anyone below us significantly improving where they've been for most of the season, let alone still needing half a dozen or so sides to do the same as well.

We've been poor on the road, but strong at home, if we keep that up we will comfortably finish in mid table which is more than acceptable for any fan.

You got fooking battered today!

We're 18/1 to go down. Will have a bit of that x

You got fooking battered today!

Yes

I went to this one and what worries me is PInce seemed to do a better job when he had less options to choose from. I am not sure he knows his best 11 and we made a poor Stoke team look decent today.

I’ve not been well last few weeks and couldn’t sleep last “night” until 8am so needless to say didn’t make it to this one. Waste of £25 but tbh looks like a win not going.

Hope you're ok m8 x

Get well soon fella

Is this the fault of the management or players just not being good enough ?

Seen worse, plenty worse over the years…get over it, it happens.

Left at 2-0 but excellent drinking session in Stoke.

Great scenes at HT with a punch or two thrown amongst the travelling support in the outside concourse area

Eh?

1974 is asking

Is this the fault of the management or players just not being good enough ?


My first away game in a long time ,

Shocking! Totally gutlesss performance by the team , but then they only played to the instructions of the manager. So who is to blame?

You taken the idiot pills again Millsy?

I never said they weren't fallible. They can make mistakes, they don’t always have a good view or.see.something.

They're still better than anyone else at it though.

Typical Ian, getting personally aggressive when he's been caught with his pants down.

Don’t worry , the boys an a little bit inadequate, scouring this website , seeking out the odd mistake with view of cashing in with a verbally bullying attack. This website is his life, that’s how inadequate he is.
He is one of the main reasons why people are not subscribing any more.

According to Alan Nixon Ovie has been told he can leave the club this,summer. Another expensive signing who just hasn't kicked on

We will be very lucky to get a million for him.

Not surprised by this. He has 1 good game in every 8 at best

Would like for him to get a loan move out this window so we can try and freshen in up with another player somewhere, it will also held in trimming the wage bill at least for the remainder of the season.

I reckon we could get a seven figure fee for him, depending on any interested parties.

Would like for him to get a loan move out this window so we can try and freshen in up with another player somewhere, it will also held in trimming the wage bill at least for the remainder of the season.

I reckon we could get a seven figure fee for him, depending on any interested parties.
10 goals in 140 appearances, 13 assists. Never played 40 games in a season and appearances decreasing. Slows the game down, dwells on the ball. No longer a young up and coming player. Attitude been questioned and he's a miserable sod.

7 figures seems extremely optimistic. Like most of our failed signings I think we'll struggle to shift him to anyone for more than a notional fee.

Would like for him to get a loan move out this window so we can try and freshen in up with another player somewhere, it will also held in trimming the wage bill at least for the remainder of the season.

I reckon we could get a seven figure fee for him, depending on any interested parties.
10 goals in 140 appearances, 13 assists. Never played 40 games in a season and appearances decreasing. Slows the game down, dwells on the ball. No longer a young up and coming player. Attitude been questioned and he's a miserable sod.

7 figures seems extremely optimistic. Like most of our failed signings I think we'll struggle to shift him to anyone for more than a notional fee.

Does it though? Baring in mind we've just shifted on Puscas to Genoa with large wages and who have the option to purchase the player for around 4 million euros even though he scored 1 goal in 25 Championship appearances for us the last time he played for us (and 4 in 21 the previous season). He's also not exactly a young and up and coming player either now at 26.

The transfer market goes beyond just what we see. I think the emphasis is now on if clubs feel like they can get something different out of the player than what is shown at his previous club and if he fits their style of play. I don't think it's extremely optimistic, although I'm not saying it's a shoe-in either considering he's only got 12 months left on his deal (assuming a deal happens in the summer). I think it depends who is interested.

10 goals in 140 appearances, 13 assists. Never played 40 games in a season and appearances decreasing. Slows the game down, dwells on the ball. No longer a young up and coming player. Attitude been questioned and he's a miserable sod.

7 figures seems extremely optimistic. Like most of our failed signings I think we'll struggle to shift him to anyone for more than a notional fee.

Does it though? Baring in mind we've just shifted on Puscas to Genoa with large wages and who have the option to purchase the player for around 4 million euros even though he scored 1 goal in 25 Championship appearances for us the last time he played for us (and 4 in 21 the previous season). He's also not exactly a young and up and coming player either now at 26.

The transfer market goes beyond just what we see. I think the emphasis is now on if clubs feel like they can get something different out of the player than what is shown at his previous club and if he fits their style of play. I don't think it's extremely optimistic, although I'm not saying it's a shoe-in either considering he's only got 12 months left on his deal (assuming a deal happens in the summer). I think it depends who is interested.
You're using Puscas? A player we've been failing to sell for two years? Including last summer when his previous club also had a buy option for millions of Euros and we went through about 4 different attempts to sell him and didn’t? Righto.

Does it though? Baring in mind we've just shifted on Puscas to Genoa with large wages and who have the option to purchase the player for around 4 million euros even though he scored 1 goal in 25 Championship appearances for us the last time he played for us (and 4 in 21 the previous season). He's also not exactly a young and up and coming player either now at 26.

The transfer market goes beyond just what we see. I think the emphasis is now on if clubs feel like they can get something different out of the player than what is shown at his previous club and if he fits their style of play. I don't think it's extremely optimistic, although I'm not saying it's a shoe-in either considering he's only got 12 months left on his deal (assuming a deal happens in the summer). I think it depends who is interested.
You're using Puscas? A player we've been failing to sell for two years? Including last summer when his previous club also had a buy option for millions of Euros and we went through about 4 different attempts to sell him and didn’t? Righto.

Correct, I am using a player that is still commanding a sizeable transfer fee despite being far from successful in the last couple of years for us...

Pisa didn't buy him last year as they didn't go up, thus likely couldn't afford him. The reports were they had an obligation to buy him for around 5 million euros if they were promoted. The point being, he still commanded a rather large transfer fee despite being poor for us.

He hasn't commanded anything until a sale goes through.

Well he does because that's what we are wanting to sell him at. It's not our fault if the clubs can't afford him and don't meet the clauses to buy him, which Genoa's is reported to be around 3 million euros.

Well he does because that's what we are wanting to sell him at. It's not our fault if the clubs can't afford him and don't meet the clauses to buy him, which Genoa's is reported to be around 3 million euros.
Ok, well by that logic, Ejaria can command a 10 figure fee if we want to set it at that. It's not our fault if no one is willing to pay it.

Well he does because that's what we are wanting to sell him at. It's not our fault if the clubs can't afford him and don't meet the clauses to buy him, which Genoa's is reported to be around 3 million euros.
Ok, well by that logic, Ejaria can command a 10 figure fee if we want to set it at that. It's not our fault if no one is willing to pay it.

Well, yes he could be. We could want £10m for him if we wanted to. But we aren't going to do that obviously. Again, I'm not saying he will go for £1m or more, but it all depends on who is willing to go for him. If it's a Championship club, then I'd very much doubt it'll be a seven figure fee. If it's abroad, then maybe.

Is this the fault of the management or players just not being good enough ?


My first away game in a long time ,

Shocking! Totally gutlesss performance by the team , but then they only played to the instructions of the manager. So who is to blame?

Not completely - they were told to keep it tight early on and we are caught out messing around at the back in the first 10 minutes

My first away game in a long time ,

Shocking! Totally gutlesss performance by the team , but then they only played to the instructions of the manager. So who is to blame?

Not completely - they were told to keep it tight early on and we are caught out messing around at the back in the first 10 minutes

10+ years of that nonsense and still we never learn.

Thanks guys. I had an appointment with a neurologist last night so will have scan in the next day or two. Fortunately/unfortunately had to go private because NHS GP referral time was 35 weeks. Shambles.